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Nico_Noyau - Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:46 pm
Post subject: "What Is The Synth Used In" Thread
Hi !

Because I think it could be useful, here is a little thread where you can ask the question "what is the synth used in this song ?"

I begin :


What is the synth used in Moscow Oxygène 2 intro ?
What is the synth used in Moscow to make all the choirs ?




Kind regards,
Nicolas

GeeJee - Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:56 pm
Post subject: Re: "What Is The Synth Used In" Thread
noyau wrote:
What is the synth used in Moscow Oxygène 2 intro ?


JP8K

Quote:
What is the synth used in Moscow to make all the choirs ?


They actually had real choirs... as for the synthesized choirs: I think Mellotron, Raven and maybe Alesis QS...

Nico_Noyau - Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:58 pm
Post subject: Re: "What Is The Synth Used In" Thread
GeeJee wrote:
noyau wrote:
What is the synth used in Moscow Oxygène 2 intro ?


JP8K

YaY, I can do it, I was sure it was it but I didn't recognise the patch...

GeeJee wrote:
Quote:
What is the synth used in Moscow to make all the choirs ?


They actually had real choirs... as for the synthesized choirs: I think Mellotron, Raven and maybe Alesis QS...

Oh yes, the Raven, choirs look like Oxygène 7 ones :D

Thanks 8)

jp8000 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:39 pm

What intruments was used on ethnicolor 1?

Fairlight (II?) of course, but how about others?

Jarp2600 - Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:54 pm

Oh, damn... If I knew that question earlier... I was last month on a website where was a complete list of synths used during each Zoolook-track separately! But now I can't find it anymore :(
radek tymecki - Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:32 am

jp8000 wrote:
What intruments was used on ethnicolor 1?

Fairlight (II?) of course, but how about others?


Fairlight II, DX 7, Emulator, OB-Xa, for percussions Simmons i think

jeremy - Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:50 am

And I would think Drumulator, no?
GeeJee - Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:17 am

Perhaps - but I think Drumulators were used only on the Rendez-Vous album... as for the rest of the instruments, I think Radek has mentioned most of them...
jp8000 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:16 pm

Ok, do it fast??

and what type of guitar is used on the riff (any effects etc)

ElkaSynthex - Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:07 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
jp8000 wrote:
What intruments was used on ethnicolor 1?

Fairlight (II?) of course, but how about others?


Fairlight II, DX 7, Emulator, OB-Xa, for percussions Simmons i think


Simmons SDS V and Linn 1 and 2 also was used on Zoolok was MOOG 55,ARP 2600,Prophet 5.

ElkaSynthex - Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:10 pm

What is Yamaha DX 100 used for in RendezVous 4?

I think it is the bell-like in the chorus with Elka Synthex brass.

Pete - Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:25 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
jp8000 wrote:
What intruments was used on ethnicolor 1?

Fairlight (II?) of course, but how about others?


Fairlight II, DX 7, Emulator, OB-Xa, for percussions Simmons i think


...Simmons indeed... and Linn Drum (rather than drumulator)
I love how the toms sound compressed and effected! In none of the live version the toms are so great IMHO.

Jakob BC - Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:31 pm

Hey guys, if you didn't notice it, the talk about Ethnicolor is 2 years old :wink:

@JP - It's a tough one as most of the VA's JMJ used on T&T could possibly have been used. It wouldn't surprise me if you could find some of the sounds used as presets in the Radias, Virus TI, V-Synth or the Andromeda. I suppose the MC-808 was used for the beat, but Im only guessing.

ElkaSynthex - Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:46 pm

Pete wrote:
radek tymecki wrote:
jp8000 wrote:
What intruments was used on ethnicolor 1?

Fairlight (II?) of course, but how about others?


Fairlight II, DX 7, Emulator, OB-Xa, for percussions Simmons i think


...Simmons indeed... and Linn Drum (rather than drumulator)
I love how the toms sound compressed and effected! In none of the live version the toms are so great IMHO.


I only seen Simmons SDS V been used live also a big kit in China concert in 1981.I had a Simmons SDX that was a sampler that Jarre also use in Revolution album.

ElkaSynthex - Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:49 pm

Jakob BC wrote:
Hey guys, if you didn't notice it, the talk about Ethnicolor is 2 years old :wink:

@JP - It's a tough one as most of the VA's JMJ used on T&T could possibly have been used. It wouldn't surprise me if you could find some of the sounds used as presets in the Radias, Virus TI, V-Synth or the Andromeda. I suppose the MC-808 was used for the beat, but Im only guessing.


I also have Radias and Virus TI.But have not listen to that song.

jp8000 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:35 am

Jakob BC wrote:

@JP - It's a tough one as most of the VA's JMJ used on T&T could possibly have been used. It wouldn't surprise me if you could find some of the sounds used as presets in the Radias, Virus TI, V-Synth or the Andromeda. I suppose the MC-808 was used for the beat, but Im only guessing.


I´ll add the SH201, because I have tried to make the lead with it

OK, do it fast cover

(i'll strongly point word tried, because I don't have much experience on synth programming, as you know)

Nico_Noyau - Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:53 am

And where has been used the Roland Juno ? :pwned:

For the guitar-like sound, I'd go either for the V-Synth or the Virus ;)

Jakob BC - Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:57 am

Depends on what guitar it is. I suppose that real guitar stuff was played on a real guitar by Claude :wink:
Equinoxe - Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:18 am

jp8000 wrote:
Ok, do it fast??

and what type of guitar is used on the riff (any effects etc)



Its a Guitar Loop off the V synth GT,I will do a demo of the loop when I get a chance...

As far as Presets in the V synth GT,That is all Jarre used the GT for,(Unless he used it for other reasons)Its great for sample manipulation,

Jakob BC - Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:21 am

Equinoxe wrote:
jp8000 wrote:
Ok, do it fast??

and what type of guitar is used on the riff (any effects etc)



Its a Loop off the V synth GT,I will do a demo of the loop when I get a chance...


That sounds familiar. Haven't you done a demo of it before or something? :nico:

Equinoxe - Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:22 am

Jakob BC wrote:
Equinoxe wrote:
jp8000 wrote:
Ok, do it fast??

and what type of guitar is used on the riff (any effects etc)



Its a Loop off the V synth GT,I will do a demo of the loop when I get a chance...


That sounds familiar. Haven't you done a demo of it before or something? :nico:



No,I bought the GT a few months back so havent put any sound demos up of it yet,will try and do something later on today or tommorow

jp8000 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:23 am

Equinoxe wrote:
Jakob BC wrote:
Equinoxe wrote:
jp8000 wrote:
Ok, do it fast??

and what type of guitar is used on the riff (any effects etc)



Its a Loop off the V synth GT,I will do a demo of the loop when I get a chance...


That sounds familiar. Haven't you done a demo of it before or something? :nico:



No,I bought the GT a few months back so havent put any sound demos up of it yet,


Jon (aka equinoxe5) did that demonstration

Jakob BC - Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:25 am

jp8000 wrote:
Equinoxe wrote:
Jakob BC wrote:
Equinoxe wrote:
jp8000 wrote:
Ok, do it fast??

and what type of guitar is used on the riff (any effects etc)



Its a Loop off the V synth GT,I will do a demo of the loop when I get a chance...


That sounds familiar. Haven't you done a demo of it before or something? :nico:



No,I bought the GT a few months back so havent put any sound demos up of it yet,


Jon did that demonstration


That could be the explanation :fine:

jp8000 - Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:40 pm

What synth has the "bells" choir? JV90?

(that JMJ song, of course)

Kanta - Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:48 pm

I guess no-one knows :? apart from JMJ and his team.
Nico_Noyau - Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:08 pm

In which track ?
jp8000 - Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:15 pm

Nico_Noyau wrote:
In which track ?


Bells, Je me souviens

Jakob BC - Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:57 am

It wouldn't surprise me if it can be found somewhere on the JV80 expansion cards.
Nico_Noyau - Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:39 pm

Yes I think so, or it's the K2000, but JMJ said he only used it as master keyboard
JPQ - Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:09 pm

what is used in Equinoxe7 overtrue sound in concerts in china i mean these smooth sounds before "synth bass" & audience comes..
and what is chord synth in orient express ?
and what is string sound source in souvenir in cihna ? (orginal concers in china versiot not jarre in china version i think older sounds nicer)
and synth(s) are is magnetic fields 3 used "korg lore" type sounds ? and other sfx?

jp8000 - Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:13 pm

JPQ wrote:
what is used in Equinoxe7 overtrue sound in concerts in china i mean these smooth sounds before "synth bass" & audience comes..
and what is chord synth in orient express ?
and what is string sound source in souvenir in cihna ? (orginal concers in china versiot not jarre in china version i think older sounds nicer)
and synth(s) are is magnetic fields 3 used "korg lore" type sounds ? and other sfx?


1.Oberheim OBx-a
2.Prophet 5
3.mellotron

Analog-Umph - Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:50 pm

JPQ wrote:
and synth(s) are is magnetic fields 3 used "korg lore" type sounds ? and other sfx?

Are you referring to the glissando sound?

radek tymecki - Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:34 pm

1. obxa that's right.
2. didn't know that it was prophet :) any sounds or sth?
3. in magnetic fields... there's 310u and... p5?

jp8000 - Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:39 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
1. obxa that's right.
2. didn't know that it was prophet :) any sounds or sth?
3. in magnetic fields... there's 310u and... p5?


2. I wrote this according your message, when you had the prophet 5 with you

edit there is a tiny proof:

Prophet 5 was used!

Jakob BC - Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:35 am

Im quite sure as well that Orient Express is a Prophet-5, only from what has been concluded earlier. I don't get exactly what parts the last two questions are about... "korg lore"???
Equinoxe - Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:01 am

Jakob BC wrote:
Im quite sure as well that Orient Express is a Prophet-5, only from what has been concluded earlier. I don't get exactly what parts the last two questions are about... "korg lore"???



Korg had a PCM sample called "Lore" it was a prominent sample in the M1,and used in the "Universe" preset,it sounds like water fx,although it has nothing to do with the sounds used on the song in question,I think he just trying to describe the type of sound so people can relate to it.

Korg M1 Universe sound

The Universe Preset is the very first sound played on this Video Demo,the "Lore" sample is the moving FX you hear under the Choir sample.

Analog-Umph - Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:26 am

There's a whole lot more in MF3 than just P5 and E310, there's a whole lot of sampling.

Most of that is from the Fairlight.

JPQ - Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:56 am

In concerts in china these is yamaha cs80 what used for?
recently i m understading for sfx.

jp8000 - Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:08 am

JPQ wrote:
In concerts in china these is yamaha cs80 what used for?
recently i m understading for sfx.


No CS80 were used on that tour, but the CS60 was used, (little brother of CS80)

(and the user was Fredrick Rousseau)

The site with synths JMJ used in the past years

but gear used in Teo&tea has not been listed there

Jakob BC - Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:48 am

MF3 was indeed based a lot on samples. But P5?? I don't think that was used on MF at all.
The choir in the beginning of SoC must be from the Fairlight as well.

ElkaSynthex - Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:24 am

I think the Bass on Fishing Junks at sunset is Prophet 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfg4I-n3LAc

Jakob BC - Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:39 am

ElkaSynthex wrote:
I think the Bass on Fishing Junks at sunset is Prophet 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfg4I-n3LAc


I remember some talk about the Moog Taurus being responsible for that bas sound.

radek tymecki - Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:44 pm

Very possible. Anyway here's a short demo of P5

prophet5 fishing junks [1.5 mb]

Jakob BC - Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:50 pm

Cool, it's actually I nice synth piece when this part is isolated :)
jp8000 - Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:54 am

how the "bojoing" effect on guitar, used in "Ok, do it fast" is done


wah wah??

GeeJee - Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:37 pm

Envelope follower or Auto-Wah.
jp8000 - Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:47 pm

GeeJee wrote:
Envelope follower or Auto-Wah.


thanks, I'll try those

Dr. Who - Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:47 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
Very possible. Anyway here's a short demo of P5

prophet5 fishing junks [1.5 mb]


Great sounds as usual Radek! Are both the lead and string pad done on a P5? How did you make the lead on the P5? Just curious what settings you used. Been trying to get close to that on an Andy and haven't gotten nearly as close as you have. Always been a fan on the synthetic part of Fishing Junks. Very calming...

radek tymecki - Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:43 pm

2 PW [approx 20-40%] detuned a bit + LFO added on both VCO's :)
Dr. Who - Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:29 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
2 PW [approx 20-40%] detuned a bit + LFO added on both VCO's :)


Many thanks! I'll try to fiddle around with the settings and see if I can get close.

Jakob BC - Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:35 pm

Dr. Who wrote:
radek tymecki wrote:
2 PW [approx 20-40%] detuned a bit + LFO added on both VCO's :)


Many thanks! I'll try to fiddle around with the settings and see if I can get close.


That shouldn't be a problem, I did this sound on my Nord. It's not really a complex sound.

JPQ - Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:16 am

In concerts in china overture there is "sequence" is slowed down form magnetic fields 1 but i want know its made with sequencer with lower pitch sound and slower tempo. or sampler or recording sequence with tape. Any ideas/facts?
radek tymecki - Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:56 am

it was slowed down sequence from rsf kobol and mdb polysequencer i think :)
jp8000 - Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:02 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
it was slowed down sequence from rsf kobol and mdb polysequencer i think :)


not the ob-x, like in album?? (don't know, who wrote about that earlier)

radek tymecki - Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:04 pm

obx was used for strings etc... the sequence is originally 3 osc one :)
GeeJee - Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:40 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
it was slowed down sequence from rsf kobol and mdb polysequencer i think :)


and octave down. or two. :D

JPQ - Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:07 pm

GeeJee wrote:
radek tymecki wrote:
it was slowed down sequence from rsf kobol and mdb polysequencer i think :)


and octave down. or two. :D


its magnetic fields sequence made with rsf kobol? ps. silly typo fixed.

Jakob BC - Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:08 pm

JPQ wrote:
GeeJee wrote:
radek tymecki wrote:
it was slowed down sequence from rsf kobol and mdb polysequencer i think :)


and octave down. or two. :D


its magnetic fields sequence made with rsf kobel?


For the China concerts it was, most likely. I don't know about the album version.

radek tymecki - Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:45 pm

yes it was :)
JPQ - Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:05 pm

i think is queston are asked before still i ask orginal oxygene 4 lead source ? and any software replacements for... becouse blue and albino sounds very digital when i try make this sound but i know sound is very easy make almost any synth but some softsynths just sounds too digital i think for this sound.
AnDrOiD - Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:09 pm

You should know that software is a very bad word on this forum. :pwned:
Kanta - Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:10 pm

I can think of worst. :p:
Jon - Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:14 pm

AnDrOiD wrote:
You should know that software is a very bad word on this forum. :pwned:


Why bring it up then ? :punch:

GeeJee - Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:40 pm

JPQ wrote:
i think is queston are asked before still i ask orginal oxygene 4 lead source ? and any software replacements for... becouse blue and albino sounds very digital when i try make this sound but i know sound is very easy make almost any synth but some softsynths just sounds too digital i think for this sound.


ARP 2600 ;)

Jarre4422 - Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:41 am

Lead of Chronologie 4
Analog-Umph - Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:30 am

GeeJee wrote:
JPQ wrote:
i think is queston are asked before still i ask orginal oxygene 4 lead source ? and any software replacements for... becouse blue and albino sounds very digital when i try make this sound but i know sound is very easy make almost any synth but some softsynths just sounds too digital i think for this sound.


ARP 2600 ;)


With the 4012 ladder

radek tymecki - Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:36 pm

chronologie 2/4 organ - roland jd800
oxy 4 lead - arp2600 + 310u behind

Pat1982 - Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:58 am

radek tymecki wrote:
oxy 4 lead - arp2600 + 310u behind


Then why did Jarre play it on the MemoryMoog during the tour :wink: ?

Equinoxe - Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:33 am

Pat1982 wrote:
radek tymecki wrote:
oxy 4 lead - arp2600 + 310u behind


Then why did Jarre play it on the MemoryMoog during the tour :wink: ?


The Oxygene 2 lead was also originally off the Eminent but he plays that too on the memorymoog,and I suspect the Flute sound was also off the ARP2600 on the original Album,but its perhaps more about convenience for Jarre on stage rather than trying to stick to the original instruments 100%,he had the freedom of multitracking a single instrument for as many patches as he needed in the studio,whilst he's done as much as he can with multiple instruments on stage to play live,I dare say its not so easy logisitically and the Memorymoog is utilised for its patch saving ability

Each synth within his set up was utilised for one particular sound,if he'd used the ARP2600 live for the O4 lead,he'd have to repatch it for another sound,or more over use another ARP2600,More convenient to program it into the Memorymoog and switch patches,its more about what suits Jarre,far easier to use another synth and patch change numerically than actually patching in a sound.
I'm sure if he really wanted to play it on the 2600 he would have,the MemoryMoog replicates those sounds just as authentically with less fumbling around

Jakob BC - Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:52 am

Yeah he most likely used the memorymoog because it is wellsuited for an authentic Oxygene sound, besides the fact that it has memory and polyphony. It makes it perfect as a mainsynth in this case, eventhough it is known for the tuning problems, which also happend to trap JMJ.
radek tymecki - Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:36 pm

and was released in 1982 ;)
olivier_0001 - Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:13 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
chronologie 2/4 organ - roland jd800
oxy 4 lead - arp2600 + 310u behind


what do you mean with 310u behind ? a specifc sound or string ?
I'm just now looking for a replicate oxygene 4 melody...
thx!

Jakob BC - Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:24 pm

If you listen to Oxygene 4, you can hear an Eminent that follows the hornlead melody.
Jarre4422 - Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:41 am

radek tymecki wrote:
chronologie 2/4 organ - roland jd800
oxy 4 lead - arp2600 + 310u behind

It´s a factory preset or a one he made???

radek tymecki - Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:45 am

Probably it was created by himself.

About Chronologie presets for jd800 - few of them can be found on francisrimbert.com site

Also one detail about phased chords in oxygene 4: compare how it sounds when JMJ plays main melody and how it sounds when RMI can be heard; sounds metallic ale more resonance is added. It's because JMJ added mistress flanger with 3/4 color and small cycle rate + low flange. Small detail but helpful when creating replicas ;)

[ps. damn i need to fix my oxy4 lol :D ]

Analog-Umph - Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:54 am

radek tymecki wrote:
Also one detail about phased chords in oxygene 4: compare how it sounds when JMJ plays main melody and how it sounds when RMI can be heard; sounds metallic ale more resonance is added. It's because JMJ added mistress flanger with 3/4 color and small cycle rate + low flange.


Didn't he just add more chords an octave above, that's what would make the phasing more pronounced and resonant.

radek tymecki - Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:54 pm

nope :)
Analog-Umph - Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:06 am

I tried those setting, and it's not the sound at all.
What's rather closer to the right resonance is Color on the second line, Range on the 5th and Rate on the second.

There also some eq'ing going on. And I still think he adds extra notes to the passage, 'cause it just doesn't sound right without them.
There is no start to anything, ie another clearly percievable layer of strings, if you don't add them, it's just the same old phased strings sounding a little more grungy now.
Which means either he's changed eqing in the original strings and increased a harmonic or two or he's added another layer of phasing and flanging strings.

radek tymecki - Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:39 pm

gimme some time :)
Analog-Umph - Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:56 pm

It better be good :punch:

EDIT: Actually I was just experimenting with the new issue Electric Mistress and in doing so discovered that the settings have to be completely different in order to achieve the same sound as the vintage one. All 3 have to be different, rate, range and color.

Not to mention it sounds god-awful.... The rate on the new ones really screws up the sound, it doesn't sound like a full-bodied flange, more like a cheap effect on top, especially noticable when you speed up the rate, which again doesn't take more than a 45 degree clockwise turn. :roll: I wonder what they had in mind for the rest, cause it sounds god-awful.... :lol:

Which one are you using?

olivier_0001 - Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:49 pm

do you know this settings during oxygene 4 (strings and rmi sequence ) : electric mistress and small stone serial linked. First electric mistress and second small stone.
I have remarked that on the oxygene dvd (eminent from dominique perrier)

Jarre4422 - Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:22 pm

The vocoder on Give me a sign
jp8000 - Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:25 pm

Jarre4422 wrote:
The vocoder on Give me a sign


Roland JP8080 or EMS Vocoder 2000

usgloli - Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:46 pm

And this sound we can hear in the intro of Equinoxe 7?

I suppose he played this on JV 90 but I'm not sure...
Example
And I'm sure he used this sound in Chronologie Part 2 (2.43 to 3.30) and Calypso Part 3 (0.50 to 1.12 and I suppose that it is the same sound but slowed at 1.28 to 1.40).
Can you help me?

radek tymecki - Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:38 pm

it's talking pedal
jp8000 - Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:44 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
it's talking pedal


Never thought that possibility...

Jakob BC - Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:13 pm

Actually that was concluded a few years ago, but of course that's long time ago :fine:
Nico_Noyau - Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:06 am

radek tymecki wrote:
it's talking pedal

And I confirm that, as an owner of the baby :robertdugenou:

JPQ - Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:22 pm

what synths are used in waiting for cousteau album for fx?
and what synths(i mean some how fm like sounds) and fx sounds are used in moon machine ?

Dominc - Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:34 pm

JPQ wrote:
what synths are used in waiting for cousteau album for fx?
and what synths(i mean some how fm like sounds) and fx sounds are used in moon machine ?


My Answer for that would be the Arp2600, Roland D-50, Fairlight CMI 2 and maybe the Akai S1000

Jakob BC - Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:46 pm

It depends on which EFX sounds it is.
GeeJee - Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:07 am

Dominc wrote:
JPQ wrote:
what synths are used in waiting for cousteau album for fx?
and what synths(i mean some how fm like sounds) and fx sounds are used in moon machine ?


My Answer for that would be the Arp2600, Roland D-50, Fairlight CMI 2 and maybe the Akai S1000


Minus ARP2600.

And a little bit of AKS perhaps. :fine:

Moon Machine has a lot of Fairlight in it.

radek tymecki - Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:59 pm

moon machine - look at zoolook's setup
The Remin. - Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:00 pm

Hi @all,

I always wondered what synth is used for the bass at the beginning of Chronology Part 6.
A Minimoog? TR-909?
And is it the same like in Equinoxe 7?

Would be great if you could help me.

Thanks in advance,

The Remin.

jp8000 - Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:43 pm

The Remin. wrote:
Hi @all,

I always wondered what synth is used for the bass at the beginning of Chronology Part 6.
A Minimoog? TR-909?
And is it the same like in Equinoxe 7?

Would be great if you could help me.

Thanks in advance,

The Remin.

hi!

It is a minimoog used on chronologie 6

Equinoxe 7 bass was from the ARP2600

The Remin. - Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:46 pm

Ah, thanks. You enlightened me :D
Mr Pitch - Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:48 pm

It is hard to say.

It sounds close to the Equinoxe 7 bass sound. This one is known to be from the ARP2600.

Patrick Pelamourgues has MIDIfied some analog gears for the Chronologie album, so it is possible that the ARP2600 has been used for ...

However, Moog Minimoog and ARP2600 are both named on the Chronologie booklet...

By listening seriously this bass sound, my opinion should be the ARP2600, but everything is possible. The well known "Moog bass sound" is not exactly this one, but JMJ is not renowned to use common sounds (in this case, I do not speak about more famous example like Laser harp / Synthex or Revolutions sounds / D-50) and the Minimoog can produce this kind of bass texture just like the ARP (both are 3 VCO's monophonic synthesizers) ...

I say ARP2600 but the mystery stays full !! :smoke:

The Remin. - Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:09 pm

Long ago, as I did not know a lot about synths, I thought it was a Kurzweil K2000 (but Jarre said he never used it for sounds, only as a master keyboard) or a JD800, until I found out that this one's not good for "hard sounds".... :mrgreen:
But times have changed. Now I know better.

Jakob BC - Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:41 pm

The Minimoog has often been linked to the Chronologie 6 bass, but he did also own and use the Midimoog at the time. Honestly I don't know. They would all be useable for that bass. Jarre's Minimoog is also Midified.
radek tymecki - Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:05 pm

EQ7 is very close to Chrono 6 one. I'll try to recreate that sound
JPQ - Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:07 am

The Remin. wrote:
Long ago, as I did not know a lot about synths, I thought it was a Kurzweil K2000 (but Jarre said he never used it for sounds, only as a master keyboard) or a JD800, until I found out that this one's not good for "hard sounds".... :mrgreen:
But times have changed. Now I know better.


its very odd use only k2000 for master keyboard think is one of the best digital synths of all of time.(in sy99 and jd800,wavestation are also in this category).

Mr Pitch - Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:35 am

In fact, he used the K2000 as a master keyboard for the Oxygène 7-13 album. In Chronologie, the K2000 has been used as a synth.
The Remin. - Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:46 am

I saw it on a review of the K2000 that it was used as a synth, then I heard it was not...
But definetly, it made the loops in Chronologie 5 and it is used on Waiting for Cousteau, too (I saw it on a video of Calypso 1...) But for what on WFC?

Mr Pitch - Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:39 pm

The Remin. wrote:
it is used on Waiting for Cousteau, too (I saw it on a video of Calypso 1...) But for what on WFC?


Interesting but strange anyway ...

WFC has been released on 1990, Kurweil K2000 has been released in 1991 so I have a couple of doubt about it...

Jakob BC - Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:49 pm

@The Remin - Which Calypso video was that?

Besides the La defense concert, Calypso has only (correct me if Im wrong) been performed at CPLT 1995, where two K2000 were present.

The Remin. - Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:26 pm

I think it is the La Defense concert. It is the video from the Images VHS cassette with these big skeleton figures performing. So it is before 1991, maybe 1989. Don't know much about these concerts... I wasn't even born by that time :lol:
The Kurzweil appears very shortly in the video. Here two screens:





I could not figure out what it is used for. Looked as if it was the steel drum solo, but I thought Jarre played that... ??
Can anyone help?



(Sorry for the bad quality... but this was a very short scene, with a very quick camera move. )

Mr Pitch - Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:33 pm

This keyboard is a Korg T3 I think, not a K2000 at all :wink:
jp8000 - Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:46 pm

Mr Pitch wrote:
This keyboard is a Korg T3 I think, not a K2000 at all :wink:




from jarrography

T3

The Remin. - Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:48 pm

Ok, so I was wrong. But the mighty K2000 goes not off my mind...

Mr Pitch wrote:
The Remin. wrote:
it is used on Waiting for Cousteau, too (I saw it on a video of Calypso 1...) But for what on WFC?


Interesting but strange anyway ...

WFC has been released on 1990, Kurweil K2000 has been released in 1991 so I have a couple of doubt about it...


That's not true. The first prototypes of K2000 were released in 1989, so it is possible it is used on WFC.
German Wikipedia wrote:
Mit dem Modell K2000, das als 61-Tastenversion und als Rackgerät (K2000R) hergestellt wurde, brachte die Firma Kurzweil 1989 eine ausgewachsene Workstation auf den Markt.


So the German Wikipedia says it was 1989, English says 1990, other sources say 1991, 1993 and 1999. These may be several different models. (K2000VP in blue 1998 btw.) But some say it was already 1989 and I believe into that.
That's the same discussion with the Fairlight CMI-I, which came out in 1979. A lot of pages on the net say it was only designed by then and the first ones were sold at the end of the year 1980. Maybe the same with K2000? Confused... :|

Jakob BC - Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:39 pm

But to conclude it, the synth seen from the La Defense clip is the Korg T3, used by Perrier. If you have a look at the clip again, you can spot three musicians (including Jarre) playing the lead on a keyboard. I see why you are confused, so was I first time I saw it. A lot of JMJ's past concerts are not always logically performed, due to certain factors.
GeeJee - Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:17 pm

100% sure it was a minimoog (I asked Pat Pelamourges personally).

Don't forget the flanger though :wink2:

Equinoxe - Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:47 pm

That synth is a Korg T3 that Perrier is playing,Its almost identical in looks and sound to the M1 except for the larger screen and a few more buttons,and a little more extra PCM data

I used to own one of those,Jarre used a sound off the presets called "Waterphone/shellphone" during the PLD concert it was the sound used on the Atmospheric intro on Zoolookologie,and Magnetic fields 2 Intro (The sound is the stepping down sound or Arabic type loop in the background)that is a staple sound in all the Korg Ai2 Synth banks PCM data not entirely sure if he used any presets on the WFC albumfrom the T3,never found anything in the Banks that he maybe used that was obvious

He could have perhaps had a prototype of the K2000,he did an interview for Sound on Sound magazine early 90s,where he said he was helping Kurzweil to develop one of there sampling operating systems,so could have been the K2000,although the actual street release of the K was 1991,it is possible Jarre could have had a preproduction model,as for Wikipedia,don't take everything on there as concrete fact,its so full of fabricated facts due to the way in which the data is compiled...

As for the Chrono 6 bass,I would say it was definetly a Moog device,the sound is distinctive of a Moog timbre and I've emulated the sound on the Voyager,although I would say Jarres has been doubled up or processed either with compression or another synth to give it more bottom end,he most certainly used the Midimoog rack on the Album.

JPQ - Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:49 pm

What synth used make bell sounds in Equinoxe 3 ? i mean tubular bell type tones at the end.
Jakob BC - Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:32 pm

According to VinceBlood who owns jarrography.free.fr it was one of the RMI keyboards. I don't remember which one, but I think it was the RMI Keyboard Computer.
radek tymecki - Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:01 pm

I tought it was real bell lol
JPQ - Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:05 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
I tought it was real bell lol


I think sounds very real...

Equinoxe - Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:30 am

It was one of Mike Oldfields Tubular Bells

:nod:

The Remin. - Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:07 pm

Equinoxe wrote:
It was one of Mike Oldfields Tubular Bells

:nod:


Serious? No joke?

Jakob BC - Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:32 pm

VinceBlood (I think) popsted a demo of the exact bellsound, and that one was from one of the RMI keyboards as far as I remember. I still have the soundsample.
The Remin. - Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:31 pm

And what about the lead in Equinoxe 8 (first part). Is it the Elka 707 which produces that sound of the through-coming barrel organ or is it a Korg PE 2000 ?

(Just because I'm soon getting an Elka X-707 Organ :nod: )

By the way, it made this Lead in Music for Supermarkets, pt 4, Magnetic Fields pt 5 and the rhythm in Equinoxe pt 8.
This organ also has 2 Rhapsody 610 string machines in it, which made the flanging leads in Oxygene 4 and Equinoxe 5.
Which other sounds are made with the Elka?
(And please correct me if I'm wrong...)

radek tymecki - Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:15 pm

elka was used in MF5 (entire track), EQ8 [rhytm'n'accomp], MFS4

It has rhapsody presets but those sounds were not used

most string parts from Equinoxe were from PE2000

radek tymecki - Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:18 pm

The Remin. wrote:
Equinoxe wrote:
It was one of Mike Oldfields Tubular Bells

:nod:


Serious? No joke?


Damn. Now I spotted that for years one pipe was missing in my basement! :smoke: give it to me, NOW :D

flux - Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:32 am

radek tymecki wrote:
elka was used in MF5 (entire track), EQ8 [rhytm'n'accomp], MFS4

It has rhapsody presets but those sounds were not used

most string parts from Equinoxe were from PE2000


Nope. Most strings on equinoxe are from eminent. korg PE 2000 is only used on equinoxe part 8 (final part+eminent)
More info: equinoxe part 5 is played on e310, arp2600, mp7,mgdrum composer.

source: Michel Geis, Jean Michel Jarre

edit: +vcs 3, and EMS vocoder (no AKS), forgot to mention these instruments.

Lead: ARP2600
Background: Eminent 310
Chorus: Eminent 310 (both)
Bassline: ARP2600
Drums: MP7, MG-composer
Thunder: Tape recording
Effects: VCS 3
Vocoder sound at the beginning: EMS

I have photo-copys of the technical notebooks from Oxygene, Equinoxe and Les chants magnetiques from that time (thanks to MG) handwritten and drawings(settings) by Jarre and Geiss. That is why i can provide this details.

Oxygene 60 pages (A5 format)
Equinoxe 190 pages (A4)
Les chants magnetiques 40 pages (A4)

If somebody want these notes? PM me.


BTW Farfisa is used on oxygene part 1, for about 1 second. Listen carefully to part 1 and you can hear an organ sound. That is the farfisa. (about 1.18min)

PS. from 40 seconds to 1min 40 (oxygene part 1) is dubbed eminent 310u with EHX phaser/under-layer eminent without phaser(setting phaser part string ensemble: SUST-STOPS) Layer (8' - SUST)-20db on mixer + variable volumepedal eminent. Basspedals: Bourdon 8'

matt222 - Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:48 am

Yes, most of Equinoxe sounds like Eminent string.
radek tymecki - Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:12 am

well my friends....

pe2000 can be heard in eq1/2/3/5/7/8 :)

of course i'm excluding eminent coz it appears in whole album.

as for eq5
- drums - minipops
- bass/plucks - arp 2600
- string bg chords - 310u
- refrain strings - pe2000
- lead - cs60
- vocoder - vc 10 ["c'est bien?" :D ] - MG confirmed funny story

ps. doubled eminent?

oxygene part 1 replica

btw. is it possible to share the drawings?

flux - Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:00 pm

Realy Radek, Korg P2000 is never used on equinoxe part 5. If you want the exact sound of the chorus from Equinoxe part 5. Percusion on + Octave 4' + String 4' + Princ solos stops + Vibrato fader half open + Percusion length 60 % open + Reverberation fader complete open. All this with delay + doubled dubbed with reverb on the second part of the chorus. And you have the exact sound of the chorus from Equinoxe part 5

PS. I will send you the notes.

flux - Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:25 am

radek tymecki wrote:


ps. doubled eminent?
Means dubbed/overplayed and recorded above the part.
flux - Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:09 am

flux wrote:
radek tymecki wrote:


ps. doubled eminent?
Means dubbed/overplayed and recorded above the part.


PS: All chords are overdubbed at oxygene and equinoxe. Once with normal strings or/and phaser and flanger. All overdubbed.

Your "replica" cover of oxygene part 1 is great but if you compare the sound to the original you can hear, that the sound is different. Experiment more with the flanger effect(there is surpisingly more flanger than phaser on oxygene and equinoxe) You have the right ingredients...

olivier_0001 - Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:06 pm

I'm interesteed with the tech notes, please send me a copy...
thanks !

radek tymecki - Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:41 pm

Wow flux that was very helpful :)

ps. i'm waitin for notes then :)

matt222 - Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:18 pm

I have always believed from studying Oxygene 4 that the chords were doubled with one through phaser with switch up and either one with switch down or no phaser at all.
olivier_0001 - Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:45 pm

yes Matt, you have right :D
I'm asking if the both sound (phaser UP & DOWN) are L/R delayed.
or the up to right and down to left ?

radek tymecki - Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:42 am

i only know that during rmi part jmj adds mistress
GeeJee - Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:39 am

radek tymecki wrote:
i only know that during rmi part jmj adds mistress


you serious?

MG told that 70% of the Oxygene album went thru mistress :fine:

flux - Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:44 pm

olivier_0001 wrote:
I'm interesteed with the tech notes, please send me a copy...
thanks !
olivier_0001@hotmail.com


Just hold on. about 300 pages scanning and converting to PDF takes time.

GeeJee - Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:21 pm

flux wrote:
olivier_0001 wrote:
I'm interesteed with the tech notes, please send me a copy...
thanks !
olivier_0001@hotmail.com


Just hold on. about 300 pages scanning and converting to PDF takes time.


a version for the visually impaired? :mrgreen:

olivier_0001 - Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:26 am

flux wrote:
olivier_0001 wrote:
I'm interesteed with the tech notes, please send me a copy...
thanks !


Just hold on. about 300 pages scanning and converting to PDF takes time.


ok thanks for you work to sharing theses informations.
can you give me you private email please ?

radek tymecki - Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:32 pm

After revealing who really is flux one thing: MG NEVER worked with JMJ on LCM. JMJ recorded it alone
olivier_0001 - Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:55 pm

I think it was a dream to have the tech notes from jarre & MG :lol: :lol:
may be wating from flux.....;;;

Equinoxe - Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:00 pm

Well it sounded too good to be true....

Maybe they Should "Flux off" :wtf2:

jp8000 - Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:11 pm

Do you know what is the DX7's patch name of the bellsound used in ethnicolor
Jakob BC - Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:26 pm

That's the Tubular Bell patch. Used in quite many 80's tracks:

http://www.synthmania.com...TUB%20BELLS.mp3

The Remin. - Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:53 pm

And what made that bubbeling noise short after the beginning of Calypso Pt. 2?
Jon - Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:01 pm

The Remin. wrote:
And what made that bubbeling noise short after the beginning of Calypso Pt. 2?


Jarre's kettle on the boil :mrgreen:

I think thats a preset from the D-50?

jp8000 - Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:03 pm

Jon wrote:
The Remin. wrote:
And what made that bubbeling noise short after the beginning of Calypso Pt. 2?


Jarre's kettle on the boil :mrgreen:

I think thats a preset from the D-50?


http://www.perkristian.net/studio_d50.shtml

-marshy zone from there

Jakob BC - Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:13 pm

Yes the noise in the beginning is Marshy Zone from D-50, but I don't think the bubble/swamp/farting under water sound is.
The Remin. - Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:58 pm

Jakob BC wrote:
Yes the noise in the beginning is Marshy Zone from D-50, but I don't think the bubble/swamp/farting under water sound is.


At least you got it :nod:

Didn't mean Marshy Zone, but the noises at 0.31 and 0.46. I think it is the same like the sequence at 4.51.

GeeJee - Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:13 pm

That's definately a sample of some water bubbling sound :wink2:
radek tymecki - Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:41 pm

in ethnicolor modified tubular bell from dx7 was used
The Remin. - Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:00 pm

GeeJee wrote:
That's definately a sample of some water bubbling sound :wink2:


Really? I could have bet that it was the K2000...

Jakob BC - Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:22 pm

The Remin. wrote:
GeeJee wrote:
That's definately a sample of some water bubbling sound :wink2:


Really? I could have bet that it was the K2000...


I don't think he used the K2000 before Chronologie. The Akai S1000 and the Fairlight CMI were used on WfC, so he had plenty of sampling alternatives.

GeeJee - Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:44 pm

The Remin. wrote:
GeeJee wrote:
That's definately a sample of some water bubbling sound :wink2:


Really? I could have bet that it was the K2000...


A K2000 is a sampler, y'know :punch:

radek tymecki - Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:38 pm

It could be AKS with sample&hold... easy...
GeeJee - Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:51 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
It could be AKS with sample&hold... easy...


Of course. How could I forget that. I created some very bubbly/water like sounds with my MS20 too :D

Equinoxe - Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:45 am

Ok been playing with the Roland JV1080 Module I got recently

Just a few preset Patches that I've been flicking through that sound very Jarre esque,Perhaps those with a 1080/XP80 Can have a listen to these Patches and see what you think...

"U116-Vox Flute(Possibly the sound used for the suite for Flute intro,Jarre used the Breath controllor to play??)

"U124-Cyber Space(used for the intro to the Oxygene Tour 97,This is on the Recording I have of the Oslo concert I think)theres some random atmospherics going on just prior to Jarre coming on stage,this is the sound

U73-Terminate(intro Drum hit on Love,Love,Love)

U-Flying waltz(Used on MOS)



The JV1080 is quite a nice module,very warm sounding Pads(stacks of them used by Enigma,(Taj Mahal preset used to great extent)and some of the Traditional sounds are very clean and nice,love the Dulcimer Patch,very realistic,Pianos a bit shit but some of the EPs are good,still a very good Hybrid sound module even if its 15 years old, can see why it became a staple Machine for many and still holds up today In Pro studios.

Just need to get hold of a Vintage card for it now :fine:

radek tymecki - Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:09 am

sysex of flute please :D
Equinoxe - Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:33 am

radek tymecki wrote:
sysex of flute please :D


its a the preset in the Module,if you do a complete factory reset its in the user banks

Equinoxe - Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:11 pm

Ok HERE Is a demo of some of the JV1080/XP80 sounds Jarre Used


1.Love,Love,Love(Terminate)

2.Suite for Flute(Vox Flute)

3.Millions of Stars (Bass Pizz)Overused by Faithless and Sash

4.Oxygene Tour Intro FX(Cyberspace)

5.Aero(Dulcimer)

6.Millions of Stars(Flying Waltz)

7.Touch to Remember(Luminosity)This sound is off the Yamaha EX5R module Although I'm not sure how Jarre acquired the sound for his track,no mention of the synth/Modules anywhere,perhaps he used a sample of this sound??

I'm sure there must be more sounds off the JV/XP on Metamorphoses,wonder if Jarre has any other Expansion cards apart from the Obvious Vintage Card.

Nico_Noyau - Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:34 am

The Remin. wrote:
GeeJee wrote:
That's definately a sample of some water bubbling sound :wink2:


Really? I could have bet that it was the K2000...

I have a patch from the D50 with the pad of Calypso, with a sound layer of bubbles, izzat what you mean ?

radek tymecki - Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:05 pm

No. They are talking about WFC
Nico_Noyau - Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:11 pm

Ok, please forgive me :robertdugenou:
Jakob BC - Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:42 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
No. They are talking about WFC


What does sir mean? The subject is currently some bubble effects in Calypso 2 :wink:

Nico_Noyau - Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:12 pm

/me is lost :robertdugenou:
radek tymecki - Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:30 pm

same here :)

You're talking about bubbles during main rhytm?? if yes - samples

GeeJee - Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:48 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
same here :)

You're talking about bubbles during main rhytm?? if yes - samples


he mentioned timecode, fucker :punch:

radek tymecki - Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:03 pm

fuck :D

could be 2nd layer from Rubycon patch

Jakob BC - Wed May 13, 2009 10:34 pm

Hmm after listening a lot to Industrial Revolution part 2 I was wondering, what Jarre used for the brass sound that follows the solo. First the D-50 came to my mind, but then I realized that it sounds quite Rendez-Vous-ish as if it was the Synthex.
Since it might be a preset question, I suppose someone has a simple answer :P

Nico_Noyau - Thu May 14, 2009 12:31 am

For Calypso 3 Fin de Siècle's guitar solo in the end, is it the sound engine of the Ax-Synth ?
I need to find such a sound :|

radek tymecki - Thu May 14, 2009 2:00 am

distsync or kinda sound from korg m1/m1r

can be easily found on korg legacy m1 :)

Jakob BC - Thu May 14, 2009 9:35 am

Nico_Noyau wrote:
For Calypso 3 Fin de Siècle's guitar solo in the end, is it the sound engine of the Ax-Synth ?
I need to find such a sound :|


The AX-Synth does have a nice feedback guitar preset. You can actually hear it in some of the demos on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtwh0SZv4OQ

Nico_Noyau - Thu May 14, 2009 11:03 am

Okidoki, I'll try to find it on my M1 Legacy, thx Radek ;)
And thanks for the link Jakob, this sound AWESOME :|

Jakob BC - Thu May 14, 2009 11:56 am

Indeed! Im looking forward to the release. Hopefully I can find a job soon to get some money (well at least Im working on at this moment) :smoke:
According to some youtube videos, it seems like it has been released in some parts of the world. Unless those are some kind of promos or test releases.

Nico_Noyau - Thu May 14, 2009 1:04 pm

Hm I guess those are promo, the Roland guys told me they wouldn't sell anything worlwide before very late June.
I had in my hands one of these, this is great, but I am not a fan of the design though :P


@Radek : do you have the name of the exact patch on the M1 Legacy? :robertdugenou:

Jakob BC - Thu May 14, 2009 2:23 pm

Wasn't the original sound of the Korg T3?
radek tymecki - Thu May 14, 2009 2:43 pm

i know it was in m1r for sure!

try distsync or sth like that Nico.... or try my modified patch anyway

http://www.jeanmicheljarr...es/chr2.m1multi

Nico_Noyau - Thu May 14, 2009 4:32 pm

Thanks for the patch, Radek :D
Yeps I'm sure too this was the M1, I heard it too ;)


About the Chronologie 2 "talked" parts, there is a difference between the tour version and the album version, on the album this is the EH TalkingPedal used, and on the tour, this is a VP330 or VP550 used, I'm pretty sure of it ;)
About Calypso 3: Fin de Siècle, I'm still unsure, this really sounds like the album (EH TalkingPedal) :?

Jakob BC - Thu May 14, 2009 5:20 pm

Well I was thinking on the original sound. The M1 could have some sounds from the T3 or the other way around. I was just sure that the original guitar patch wasn't from the M1. Argh fawk it I don't know much about those two keyboards anyway :P

Regarding the talking pedal, it was difficult to hear it in Aarhus as well, but I remember it to be identical to the original though. I think they used some original parts. For some reason it cannot be heard at the breakdown on the Malmö recordings.

Jarp2600 - Thu May 14, 2009 11:27 pm

Jakob BC wrote:
Nico_Noyau wrote:
For Calypso 3 Fin de Siècle's guitar solo in the end, is it the sound engine of the Ax-Synth ?
I need to find such a sound :|


The AX-Synth does have a nice feedback guitar preset. You can actually hear it in some of the demos on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtwh0SZv4OQ

But... Exept from that sound (and perhaps some of the synthsounds) and the idea of it being a keytar, the thing actually sucks, imho. I don't like it's looks, I don't like it's midish soundbanks, and you can only modify a few parameters trough USB... Not my cup of tea, I prefer a keytar to be a midicontroller... :)

Jakob BC - Fri May 15, 2009 12:09 am

Well I shall be the first then to say that Im crazy about how it looks. It has a longer neck and actually looks like an axe. The AX1 and AX7 are very cool, but I have alays been more into edgy design. So on that side I prefer the AX-Synth. Besides that. MIDI-ish sounds? What de la funk is sir talking about? Yeah right I prefer to program my own sounds, just like most of us do, but that doesn't make it sound "MIDI"-ish. Still this one has some nice sounds that would be something different from my VA-setup. Secondhand AX1/AX7 cost almost as much as the AX-Synth is going to cost. That's also a reason for me to choose the new one.
We can beat the dead horse, but it's a matter of taste here :)

Jarp2600 - Fri May 15, 2009 1:37 am

You liked the (solo)strings, brass, flutes, piano's? :shock: Well, perhaps some of the organs may be useful, but nothing new, a €200 soundmodule does the same job. Maybe "midish" is a bit too strong, but it sounds awfully digital, after all...
Equinoxe - Fri May 15, 2009 4:28 am

Anyone buying the AX synth would more than likely be buying it for the starp on controllor side of things anyway and possibly playing external modules/Synths,given the price of the AX1/7 Reaching almost that of the cost of the AX synth,its a good buy,the internal engines simply a bonus even if it sounds shit.

If I didn't already own an AX1 I would be interesting in purchasing the AX Synth,I'm glad that Roland have seen an opening in the market for demand of such types of controllors,even if they've bolted on a less than pro Rompler engine.

Jakob BC - Fri May 15, 2009 9:40 am

Jarp2600 wrote:
You liked the (solo)strings, brass, flutes, piano's? :shock: Well, perhaps some of the organs may be useful, but nothing new, a €200 soundmodule does the same job. Maybe "midish" is a bit too strong, but it sounds awfully digital, after all...


It certainly has some nice leadsounds, such as the feedback guitar ot some of those Roland-ish sync sounds. Some of those SuperNatural sounds are indeed nice too. Of course some of the sounds are a bit lame, but that's how it works with romplers.

GeeJee - Fri May 15, 2009 12:36 pm

Jarp2600 wrote:
You liked the (solo)strings, brass, flutes, piano's? :shock: Well, perhaps some of the organs may be useful, but nothing new, a €200 soundmodule does the same job. Maybe "midish" is a bit too strong, but it sounds awfully digital, after all...


I suppose by "midish" you mean it sounds like a General Midi soundset.

I'm with Jarp here though. I don't like its looks, it looks like a big toy. What do you want with piano and organ sounds anyway? I would prefer an AX1 or 7 anytime... :)

Jakob BC - Fri May 15, 2009 2:16 pm

Well if the sound engine is taken from the popular Fantom series, I doubt the sound is crap. You guys are just critical about it as a whole, because you really dislike certain parts of it :wink: Just like im perhaps overhyped about it, because I like it. Even JMJ himself seems to find the internal sounds useful during the recent tour. Toy-ish? njet :wtf2:
This is a toy:


Anyway I'll just bump my question:
Quote:
Hmm after listening a lot to Industrial Revolution part 2 I was wondering, what Jarre used for the brass sound that follows the solo. First the D-50 came to my mind, but then I realized that it sounds quite Rendez-Vous-ish as if it was the Synthex.
Since it might be a preset question, I suppose someone has a simple answer :P

Equinoxe - Fri May 15, 2009 4:40 pm

Apples and Oranges....Which is the best...simple

whatever you prefer :voila:

Kanta - Fri May 15, 2009 8:33 pm

Jakob BC wrote:
This is a toy:
Image

Wow, I want one of those. Lucky girl. 8) :nod:

GeeJee - Sat May 16, 2009 2:15 am

Kanta wrote:
Jakob BC wrote:
This is a toy:
Image

Wow, I want one of those. Lucky girl. 8) :nod:


They can be had for close to nothing. It's a Yamaha SHS-10.. :wink2:

Equinoxe - Sat May 16, 2009 5:09 am

GeeJee wrote:
Kanta wrote:
Jakob BC wrote:
This is a toy:
Image

Wow, I want one of those. Lucky girl. 8) :nod:


They can be had for close to nothing. It's a Yamaha SHS-10.. :wink2:


I'm not suprised they can be had for nothing I had one bought me for christmas(the grey/silver model) when I was a wee small child and the demo song on it was "Last Christmas" by Wham...Thankfully I ended up giving it away... :nod:

Jon - Sat May 16, 2009 10:41 am

Equinoxe wrote:
GeeJee wrote:
Kanta wrote:
Jakob BC wrote:
This is a toy:
Image

Wow, I want one of those. Lucky girl. 8) :nod:


They can be had for close to nothing. It's a Yamaha SHS-10.. :wink2:


I'm not suprised they can be had for nothing I had one bought me for christmas(the grey/silver model) when I was a wee small child and the demo song on it was "Last Christmas" by Wham...Thankfully I ended up giving it away... :nod:


With that 'Wham' song on there, you were lucky to even give it away :mrgreen: . I had one when I was younger and had to pay someone to take it away.

Kanta - Sat May 16, 2009 1:29 pm

Equinoxe wrote:
GeeJee wrote:
Kanta wrote:
Jakob BC wrote:
This is a toy:
Image

Wow, I want one of those. Lucky girl. 8) :nod:


They can be had for close to nothing. It's a Yamaha SHS-10.. :wink2:


I'm not suprised they can be had for nothing I had one bought me for christmas(the grey/silver model) when I was a wee small child and the demo song on it was "Last Christmas" by Wham...Thankfully I ended up giving it away... :nod:

Damn, you could have given it me. :D

Thanxs Gert, I will see if can get one. Watch this space. :punch: :nod:

JPQ - Fri May 22, 2009 11:37 am

What sounds are made with Oscar in Industrial Revolution ?
jp8000 - Fri May 22, 2009 11:53 am

JPQ wrote:
What sounds are made with Oscar in Industrial Revolution ?
I'm interested to know that too
GeeJee - Fri May 22, 2009 3:28 pm

Revolutions is D50 and Fairlight for a HUGE part.
Perhaps for some bass sounds?
Some sites state that the solo on IR Overture was done on an OSCar, but that's definately a D50 patch.

I'm pretty sure that the solo over Rendez-Vous 2 is an OSCar patch though - you can find a preset called "Perrier Lead" in the VST version :D

radek tymecki - Fri May 22, 2009 10:55 pm

Damn I need to check that! :D
JPQ - Tue May 26, 2009 10:01 am

how is made Aerology lead? and a least what is synth i mean in Jarre in China. i know synth what used for playing. but some times i think jarre uses these only controllers.
Jarp2600 - Tue May 26, 2009 9:33 pm

Some sine + little square waves, no filtering and legato + portamento switched on?
Jakob BC - Tue May 26, 2009 10:05 pm

The user on this forum going udner the name 'Equinoxe' has once clarified how he made it on a synth from Novation. I think a conclusion was the the sound was made on the Supernova II, which Jarre used around the AERO times.
JPQ - Tue May 26, 2009 10:07 pm

Jarp2600 wrote:
Some sine + little square waves, no filtering and legato + portamento switched on?


Oddly sounds more complex. or i type wrong songname.:)

Jakob BC - Tue May 26, 2009 10:12 pm

It is... I remember Equinox' talking about three OSCs. Just wait and see if he happens to notice your question.
GeeJee - Wed May 27, 2009 12:37 am

a very basic pw+triangle patch with no filtering.
Equinoxe - Wed May 27, 2009 1:34 pm

Aerology Lead I made with a Novation KS5,I've also got a SN rack,but haven't tried a translation as such,but they are pretty similar,I think Jarre used the Mk2,Which has some subtle changes in its architecture,whether he actually used the synth for this track is anyones guess??but is certainly possible to replicate it more than likely because its one of the few synths that have 3 Osc.


Settings:(Relevant to the KS4/5 Rack,although could be applied to the Supernova)

OSC
Osc 1-Triangle Wave (0 octave)
Osc 2-Square Wave(+1 Octave)
Osc 3-Square Wave(-1 Octave)

Portamento-61

Filter

12dB Low Pass
Frequency 34
Resonance 0
Modulation Envelope depth+47


Modulation Envelope
A-0
D-57
S-17
R-35

Amp
A-19
D-127
S-96
R-70

Add some delay FX to suit and add depth.

JPQ - Wed May 27, 2009 1:59 pm

it seems solution is filtter. ps. i test this soon i can.
juanito - Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:04 pm
Post subject: Oxygene 4 Bass
Hi,

Witch synth is useed to playing the bass?

ARP 2600?
Moog?

Jakob BC - Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:20 pm

Which bass?
Jarp2600 - Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:49 pm

I'm almost sure they did that with a mouth harp. :)
GeeJee - Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:50 pm

The bass is played by Harrison Ford. ;)
juanito - Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:53 pm

Sorry... hmmm oxygene part 4 bass... ARP 2600 or Moog? or what?
GeeJee - Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:47 pm

juanito wrote:
Sorry... hmmm oxygene part 4 bass... ARP 2600 or Moog? or what?


ARP2600, yes. Most likely.

Jakob BC - Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:39 pm

Wasn't the Oxygene 4 bass made with the RMI? I have never really thought about it nor listened closer to the bass. I just remember a link between the RMI and the O4 bass.
GeeJee - Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:14 pm

It's actually a bass-guitar like sound. I wouldn't program that on an additive digital synth.. :nico:
Jakob BC - Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:59 pm

It reminds me of the bass in the beginning of this RMI demo that can be found on Vince's website: http://www.jarrography.fr...boogie-bass.mp3
Analog-Umph - Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:43 am

GeeJee wrote:
It's actually a bass-guitar like sound. I wouldn't program that on an additive digital synth.. :nico:

The RMI was capable of some really warm stuff, as was the KC.

Have a listen to the right channel bass sequence on Oxygene 5. Unless he got the 2600 to do that, the RMI HS, it seems, is quite capable.

And again the warm Oxygene 2 bass and that organ lead for Oxygene 6.

GeeJee - Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:08 am

I never said the RMI lacked warmth, but an additive digital synth wouldn't be my first choice if i wanted to emulate a basic bass-guitaresque sound.. :wink2:
Analog-Umph - Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:29 am

Maybe it was easier to get 'good/useful' sound out of it, than out the ARP and the EMS synths. Or the kind of sounds he was looking for. Indeed if it hadn't have been for the RMI, Oxygene would've turned out very different.

Besides, I don't so much think it's a guitaresque sound any more, it has a very similar quality to the O5's main bass.
When one cuts away the bass frequencies one is left with this: http://www.sendspace.com/file/q0zoas

A rather sawish sounding sound.

I'm guessing this is the guitaresque part of the sound you're talking about.

jp8000 - Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:59 am

Any idea, what is the synth in revolutions? (top of the d50 bassline)

The arpeggio, that is. I think that it is an OSCar

GeeJee - Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:00 pm

which version do you mean? (flute/orchestra '90) and can you give a timecode when the sound is first heard? ;)
jp8000 - Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:09 pm

GeeJee wrote:
which version do you mean? (flute/orchestra '90) and can you give a timecode when the sound is first heard? ;)


Sure
The CD version with the flute intro, and the beginning of the arp is on 3 min 16 s

greedo - Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:51 pm

jp8000 wrote:
GeeJee wrote:
which version do you mean? (flute/orchestra '90) and can you give a timecode when the sound is first heard? ;)


Sure
The CD version with the flute intro, and the beginning of the arp is on 3 min 16 s


Thats an D50 too

radek tymecki - Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:26 am

fast arpeggio is from d50. main lead comes also from d50. it's kinda kokubo strings mixed with sth
jp8000 - Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:36 am

thanks for both.

So, other synths printed on the cover of revolutions are fake (except D50 and Dynacord ADDone)?

:punch:

radek tymecki - Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:46 am

don't think so :)
jp8000 - Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:29 am

Any knowledge, that is the rendez-vous 4 lead a preset or is it a custom patch??
radek tymecki - Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:35 am

it's a custom patch made on elka synthex. the patch for jp8000 can be found on this forum, for virus kb/kc on perkristian's site
Leandro - Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:10 am

What is used for the ''bilobilobilo sound'' in the beginning at oxygene 10
Beelooo - Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:44 am

Leandro wrote:
What is used for the ''bilobilobilo sound'' in the beginning at oxygene 10


Bilobilou sound ? seems a really interesting sound....but i really don't know what you're talking about !!

Can you tell exactly the time when it appears ?

Jakob BC - Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:07 pm

Me too would like to know what "bilo" is. The Quasimidi Raven was used heavily on Oxygene 10.
Leandro - Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:57 pm

Beelooo wrote:
Leandro wrote:
What is used for the ''bilobilobilo sound'' in the beginning at oxygene 10


Bilobilou sound ? seems a really interesting sound....but i really don't know what you're talking about !!

Can you tell exactly the time when it appears ?


You can hear it immediately at the beginning..
I don't really know how to explain it, but it is on the background not the lead.

Beelooo - Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:47 pm

Leandro wrote:
Beelooo wrote:
Leandro wrote:
What is used for the ''bilobilobilo sound'' in the beginning at oxygene 10


Bilobilou sound ? seems a really interesting sound....but i really don't know what you're talking about !!

Can you tell exactly the time when it appears ?


You can hear it immediately at the beginning..
I don't really know how to explain it, but it is on the background not the lead.



.....OOOOO yesssssss i Seeeeee !!!!

"R2D2 like sound" maybe !!!

Maybe AKS ? or quasimidi rave-o-lution ? I don't know.....you can make this sounds with anything, it's a just a pattern sequence

radek tymecki - Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:59 pm

i've made a research when i've owned raven. i'll post a demo soon
jp8000 - Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:40 pm

Jakob BC wrote:

@JP - I suppose the MC-808 was used for the beat, but Im only guessing.


I believe that it is made with the kit named "Deep kit" on MC808, I may do a tiny demo of it later

keran - Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:12 pm

Hi guys, does anybody know what is the very big sound glissando at the very beginning of Chronologie 4?

What about the Calypso 1 lead, before the Steel Drums?

GeeJee - Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:41 pm

Chronologie 4: I think JD800
Calypso 1 lead: I think D50 or M1

radek tymecki - Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:06 pm

jd800 at krono4. patch can be found on FR's soundbank
keran - Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:37 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
jd800 at krono4. patch can be found on FR's soundbank


Thanks to you both.

But Radek, Rimbert's bank is unavailable on the net at yet. Do you still have it?

radek tymecki - Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:15 am

patches are avail on FR's site

http://www.francisrimbert...ie+HongKong.mid

http://www.francisrimbert...JD800_TDOTS.mid

computerhythm - Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:43 pm

Analog-Umph wrote:
GeeJee wrote:
It's actually a bass-guitar like sound. I wouldn't program that on an additive digital synth.. :nico:

The RMI was capable of some really warm stuff, as was the KC.

Have a listen to the right channel bass sequence on Oxygene 5. Unless he got the 2600 to do that, the RMI HS, it seems, is quite capable.

And again the warm Oxygene 2 bass and that organ lead for Oxygene 6.


Both the Harmonic Synthesizer and the Keyboard Computer are very brittle-sounding digital synthesisers. But I guess you know what youre talking about from having owned them.

Stephen

Analog-Umph - Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:27 am

computerhythm wrote:
Analog-Umph wrote:
GeeJee wrote:
It's actually a bass-guitar like sound. I wouldn't program that on an additive digital synth.. :nico:

The RMI was capable of some really warm stuff, as was the KC.

Have a listen to the right channel bass sequence on Oxygene 5. Unless he got the 2600 to do that, the RMI HS, it seems, is quite capable.

And again the warm Oxygene 2 bass and that organ lead for Oxygene 6.


Both the Harmonic Synthesizer and the Keyboard Computer are very brittle-sounding digital synthesisers. But I guess you know what youre talking about from having owned them.

Stephen

That's exactly right!

thhedk - Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:47 am

[quote="
Calypso 1 lead: I think D50 or M1[/quote]

It's a strange sound, if you listen to it in the start of Calyso-remix (on Jarre mix), it's like it has a lower octave sound, that's "hangning", and not playing all the notes?

Is it a preset on D50 like anything else?

keran - Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:33 am

radek tymecki wrote:
patches are avail on FR's site

http://www.francisrimbert...ie+HongKong.mid

http://www.francisrimbert...JD800_TDOTS.mid


Thank you Radek , but don't manage to reach the page.

Quote:
It's a strange sound, if you listen to it in the start of Calyso-remix (on Jarre mix), it's like it has a lower octave sound, that's "hangning", and not playing all the notes?

Is it a preset on D50 like anything else?


Don't know but if someone has the SysEx, I wanna bless him for ever. :hypocrit:

christophe_ketels - Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:40 pm

Hello Radek,

are you sure the glissando starting sound (the very first sound on the album version) is in the JD-800 patches from Rimbert ? I have both sound banks and none of them gave me the glissando sound on the JD-800, are they maybe only in the JD-990 bank ?

GeeJee - Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:46 pm

I don't think that particular sound is in there.
radek tymecki - Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:07 pm

the sound is pretty EQ'ed. It's in Rimberts bank. On sunday I'll let U know what's the name
GeeJee - Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:03 pm

Sounds plausible to me. Geiss once said they EQ'ed so much they were better of programming other patches in stead :mrgreen:
radek tymecki - Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:16 pm

the patch is "descent <hold>"
olivier_0001 - Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:58 am

radek tymecki wrote:
the patch is "descent <hold>"



I just tried it and indeed a lot of EQ is needed

Polarity - Fri May 02, 2014 11:36 am

so, at some years of distance since the first post about what synth was used to play Chronologie 6 bass, what is your thinking today?

MiniMoog D?
To me it doesn't sound as the ARP2600 bass of Equinoxe 7.
Perhaps some layering of two synths (MiniMoog D and ARP2600)?!?

I will try to get it from Native Instruments Monark.

radek tymecki - Sat May 10, 2014 11:50 am

mini d
Polarity - Tue May 13, 2014 7:15 pm

thankyou!
jp8000 - Sat May 17, 2014 11:53 am

Oxygene 7 bassline? Quasidimidi raven maybe?
AERO62 - Sun May 18, 2014 12:22 am

The most important question is what synths/software and samples are used on Waiting for Cousteau track? Apart from AMI.
radek tymecki - Sun May 18, 2014 6:33 pm

quasimidi raven was used for making almost all sounds in oxy 7
Apul - Sun May 18, 2014 8:06 pm

Yeah, the Raven is all over Oxygene 7 - Bassline and Choirs in part 1 and a few other little sound effects and drum hits throughout parts 2 and 3 also. One sound, which is rather subtle is used also in Miss Moon!
radek tymecki - Sat May 24, 2014 1:26 am

i not talking aboud bass and choirs. MOST od sounds in oxy 7 are from raven. also in oxy 10
Beelooo - Sat May 24, 2014 8:25 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
i not talking aboud bass and choirs. MOST od sounds in oxy 7 are from raven. also in oxy 10


JMJ says that bass were mostly doubled by ARP2600 in the sub

Raven was quite used in Oxy10 track; he overload the MIDI flow data to virtually add delay in track, like the humanise function in DAW will do, then record the result track by track.

So the track sounds less "clinical" as he said

radek tymecki - Sun May 25, 2014 7:36 pm

no. no 2600.

very soon i'll post oxy 7 and 10 research with sounds that are only from raven

Beelooo - Mon May 26, 2014 6:20 pm

radek tymecki wrote:
no. no 2600.

very soon i'll post oxy 7 and 10 research with sounds that are only from raven


my mistake ;

what JMJ exactlly says between 3:00 and 4:00 of the link i've post here is that he systematically doubled Nordlead sequences / sounds with ARP2600 low freq and subs

jp8000 - Fri May 30, 2014 8:47 pm

What is the synth used in equinoxe 7 producing rising sound in the middle of the album version?

(2:23 is the first appearance of that sound)

would that be oberheim two voice?

Analog-Umph - Sat May 31, 2014 5:14 am

jp8000 wrote:
What is the synth used in equinoxe 7 producing rising sound in the middle of the album version?

(2:23 is the first appearance of that sound)

would that be oberheim two voice?

Rising sound?

You mean a glissando

Jarre's favourite thing to do on a keyboard. :P

You can use any keyboard instrument to do that. From pianos, organs to synthesizers.

It's usually done on a harp, due to the wonderful harmonic resonance it produces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QOCND9dgTE

On Oxygene 1 its a pulse waveform, with keyboard tracking. Equinoxe 7 could be the same.

ARP2600 was used for Oxygene 1.
It's a kind of magical sound, which is why Jarre uses it, but really any synth will do.

In order for the lower notes to be darker, as they are on both Oxygene 1 and Equinoxe 7,
the instrument must either have inbuilt keyboard tracking (such the Eminent 310 and ARP2600) or it can be adjusted/over-ridden as the ARP2600 also provides.

The Oberheim synths did have keyboard tracking, but I'm not sure the 2 voice did. It's the later ones, the OBX series.

Jarre preferred to use keyboard tracking, because that gives a more natural timbre to synthetically created "instruments/sounds". Which mimics the way acoustic instruments act in nature.

thhedk - Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:39 pm

jp8000 wrote:
What is the synth used in equinoxe 7 producing rising sound in the middle of the album version?

(2:23 is the first appearance of that sound)

would that be oberheim two voice?



Well, since it is almost impossible to play these sequences live, it is most likely played using the Matrisequencer and this was almost only used with the Arp 2600, that would be my guess. :)

The last one starting slow and speeding up, is the only one played straight up without ane notes going back or jumping, this one he could have played directly on the keyboard, if the sound was transposed to C ;)

Analog-Umph - Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:23 am

thhedk wrote:
Well, since it is almost impossible to play these sequences live

Huh? It's not a sequence, it's a glissando. The specific 2:23 one which he was referring to, there is no easier thing in the world.

There's two types of glissandos in that track, the former is as easy as pie, the other one requires the Matrisequencer, because it goes up and down a note, as it rises steadily.
That one occurs first time at 3:33.

thhedk - Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:41 pm

Analog-Umph wrote:
thhedk wrote:
Well, since it is almost impossible to play these sequences live

Huh? It's not a sequence, it's a glissando. The specific 2:23 one which he was referring to, there is no easier thing in the world.

There's two types of glissandos in that track, the former is as easy as pie, the other one requires the Matrisequencer, because it goes up and down a note, as it rises steadily.
That one occurs first time at 3:33.



Believe me, I have replicated them all in my cover version, they are not just glissandos, they step back a note or two several times, exept the last one.

Millenium - Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:23 am

Hi guys, does anybody know what Synth was used at the lead sound of Magnetic Fields 2? I think it is a Fairlight, but I am not sure.
Analog-Umph - Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:43 am

thhedk wrote:
Believe me, I have replicated them all in my cover version, they are not just glissandos, they step back a note or two several times, exept the last one.

Missed this post from last year. Yeah that's exactly what I said. There are two types. :)

I call them still glissandos, one hand played, one sequencer played. It's not technically a sequence in the meaning that Jarre's music usually uses it. Though in the strictest sense it may be called a sequence, just as anything hand played or machine played is, when repeated, for example Eq 1 Em Seq. Or the Oxy5 Right Channel Str Seq or many of the passing sequenced effects in Oxy 7-13.

funkygreenalien - Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:55 am

Millenium wrote:
Hi guys, does anybody know what Synth was used at the lead sound of Magnetic Fields 2? I think it is a Fairlight, but I am not sure.


Ok, als een dank woordje al te veel is boerke . Ga ergens anders gaan janken! Leeghanger.

Millenium - Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:34 pm

What?
Finaero - Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:51 am

Millenium wrote:
What?


Pay no attention to him, he's a troll who for some reason still hasn't been banned.

Millenium - Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:36 am

Alright... the translation is quite funny tho. He called me a shoe.

Anyways, as I said, I think it is the CMI Fairlight, because Jarre used it as a prop in the MF Pt. 2 Music Video (Click - Video starts right at the leads.).

However, for me it sounds a little bit organ-ish too. Maybe a sampled organ?

flux - Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:10 pm

Oberheim OB-X. The same lead is also used in MFS part 1 and Orint express.
Millenium - Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:50 am

Thank you very much, Sir!
mikael488 - Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:24 pm

Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum and this is my first post here. I was wondering if anyone here happen to have a reasonably comprehensive listing (preferably one that's reliable :) ) of what synths/keyboards were used for the various parts on Oxygene and Equinoxe, i.e. a synth-breakdown for each of the tracks.

I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance

Regards,
Micke

Josue143803 - Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:34 pm

Does anyone know the synth used in the beginning of Oxygne 19?
ekein - Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:22 pm

mikael488 wrote:
Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum and this is my first post here. I was wondering if anyone here happen to have a reasonably comprehensive listing (preferably one that's reliable :) ) of what synths/keyboards were used for the various parts on Oxygene and Equinoxe, i.e. a synth-breakdown for each of the tracks.

I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance

Regards,
Micke


I`m looking the same right now, meanwhile i`m making my own. Help will be apprecited...

Eric

PsychNerD - Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:45 pm

It's a Korg R3 preset... also available on the Korg Radias (BPF Plus)...
Analog-Umph - Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:07 pm

ekein wrote:
mikael488 wrote:
Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum and this is my first post here. I was wondering if anyone here happen to have a reasonably comprehensive listing (preferably one that's reliable :) ) of what synths/keyboards were used for the various parts on Oxygene and Equinoxe, i.e. a synth-breakdown for each of the tracks.

I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance

Regards,
Micke


I`m looking the same right now, meanwhile i`m making my own. Help will be apprecited...

Eric


Here, try this:

Oxygene 1 - Eminent 310, EMS AKS, ARP2600, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer. | EH Small Stone, Maestro Echoplex Delay, Reverb
Oxygene 2 - Eminent 310, EMS VCS3, EMS AKS, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, Korg Minipops 7, ARP2600, Mellotron. | EH Small Stone, Maestro Echoplex Delay, Reverb
Oxygene 3 - Eminent 310, ARP2600, EKO Computerythm, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, Mellotron (Birdspeech). | EH Small Stone, Maestro Echoplex Delay, Reverb
Oxygene 4 - EMS VCS3, Korg Minipops 7, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, Eminent 310, ARP2600 | EH Small Stone, Maestro Echoplex Delay, Reverb
Oxygene 5 - EMS AKS, Eminent 310, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, ARP2600, EMS VCS3 | Farfisa Duo Organ used as an Effect, EH Electric Mistress, Maestro Echoplex Delay?, Reverb
Oxygene 6 - EMS VCS3, ARP2600, Korg Minipops 7, Eminent 310, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer. | EH Small Stone, Reverb


Equinoxe 1 - Eminent 310, CS-60
Equinoxe 2 - Eminent 310, EMS VCS3/AKS, RMI Keyboard Computer, ARP2600
Equinoxe 3 - RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, RMI Keyboard Computer, Eminent 310, EMS VCS3/AKS,
Equinoxe 4 - Eminent 310, EMS VCS3/AKS, ARP2600, Geiss Rhythmicomputer, Mellotron
Equinoxe 5 - EMS Vocoder, ARP2600, RMI Keyboard Computer, Korg PE-1000, Eminent 310, Geiss Rhythmicomputer
Equinoxe 6 - ARP2600, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, Geiss Rhythmicomputer
Equinoxe 7 - ARP2600, Geiss Rhythmicomputer, Eminent 310, EMS VCS3/AKS, Korg PE-1000
Equinoxe 8 - ELKA 707, ARP2600, EMS VCS3/AKS, Korg PE-1000

And the Revox B77 was used on both albums I think (could be A on Oxy), as the all-important stereo delay throughout every track.

ekein - Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:59 pm

Analog-Umph wrote:
ekein wrote:
mikael488 wrote:
Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum and this is my first post here. I was wondering if anyone here happen to have a reasonably comprehensive listing (preferably one that's reliable :) ) of what synths/keyboards were used for the various parts on Oxygene and Equinoxe, i.e. a synth-breakdown for each of the tracks.

I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance

Regards,
Micke


I`m looking the same right now, meanwhile i`m making my own. Help will be apprecited...

Eric


Here, try this:

Oxygene 1 - Eminent 310, EMS AKS, ARP2600, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer. | EH Small Stone, Maestro Echoplex Delay, Reverb
Oxygene 2 - Eminent 310, EMS VCS3, EMS AKS, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, Korg Minipops 7, ARP2600, Mellotron. | EH Small Stone, Maestro Echoplex Delay, Reverb
Oxygene 3 - Eminent 310, ARP2600, EKO Computerythm, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, Mellotron (Birdspeech). | EH Small Stone, Maestro Echoplex Delay, Reverb
Oxygene 4 - EMS VCS3, Korg Minipops 7, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, Eminent 310, ARP2600 | EH Small Stone, Maestro Echoplex Delay, Reverb
Oxygene 5 - EMS AKS, Eminent 310, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, ARP2600, EMS VCS3 | Farfisa Duo Organ used as an Effect, EH Electric Mistress, Maestro Echoplex Delay?, Reverb
Oxygene 6 - EMS VCS3, ARP2600, Korg Minipops 7, Eminent 310, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer. | EH Small Stone, Reverb


Equinoxe 1 - Eminent 310, CS-60
Equinoxe 2 - Eminent 310, EMS VCS3/AKS, RMI Keyboard Computer, ARP2600
Equinoxe 3 - RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, RMI Keyboard Computer, Eminent 310, EMS VCS3/AKS,
Equinoxe 4 - Eminent 310, EMS VCS3/AKS, ARP2600, Geiss Rhythmicomputer, Mellotron
Equinoxe 5 - EMS Vocoder, ARP2600, RMI Keyboard Computer, Korg PE-1000, Eminent 310, Geiss Rhythmicomputer
Equinoxe 6 - ARP2600, RMI Harmonic Synthesizer, Geiss Rhythmicomputer
Equinoxe 7 - ARP2600, Geiss Rhythmicomputer, Eminent 310, EMS VCS3/AKS, Korg PE-1000
Equinoxe 8 - ELKA 707, ARP2600, EMS VCS3/AKS, Korg PE-1000

And the Revox B77 was used on both albums I think (could be A on Oxy), as the all-important stereo delay throughout every track.



Thank You!!! I will try it soon on Oxygen, is my first project to play it Live here in Buenos Aires.
Some day i will play it with analog equipment, meanwhile i will use vst to get as close as i can.
Thanks again! :D


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