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Livgivare - Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:59 pm
Post subject: Zoolook
Tell us what you think of this album here.

Love Leelene

Ronja - Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:06 pm

I love this album, it's in my Top 3 :)

Even if it consisted only of "Ethnicolor" I would find it genial...great idea and great realisation.
That's why I name JMJ "the Master"! :D

Feffeli - Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:08 pm

This is one of JMJ's lushest albums, it seems. Instead of exploring the grandiose majesty of space, this album really has a very human touch to it that makes it a very agreeable break from JMJ's usual formulae at the time.
Livgivare - Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:11 pm

Personally I think this album is both hillariously fun and great at the time. the head track Zoolook was probobly the first Jarre song I heard, but didn't know it was his work.

Love Leelene

Jakob BC - Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:46 pm

This album is alot different from the other albums. It's a special album and weird if you aren't familiar with it. The great use of samples from humans isn't comparable to his other albums. I used to connect JMJ with use of human sounds in music.
When I was younger and heard Ethnicolor, I was affraid of the track, I only knew about the first part at that time.

Finaero - Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:09 pm

Very different and experimental, very good too. When I was a kid, PLD Ethnicolor somehow scared the shit out of me, so I didn't like that track much then. I listened to rest of the album pretty much (and usually the later half of Ethnicolor), I really liked the music. And still do.

Unlike then, my ultimate favorites are Ethnicolor (perhaps my most favorite Jarre track ever, in fact) and Zoolookologie. I admit I don't listen to the rest of them that much, except when I have my Zoolook listen-a-throughs.

I can do this and not feel bad at all too:

10/10

AnDrOiD - Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:30 pm

I love this album! :mrgreen:
Christophe - Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:40 pm

It's a lovely album. :wink: 8)

Greetzzz...

GeeJee - Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:47 pm

I loved it instantly when I had bought it. Very very good! No comments left, I guess... :D

Oh.. 9.5/10

AnDrOiD - Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:58 pm

I was very disappointed when I got a copy of the album on cassette tape, back in '84. Too distant from what I was used to with Oxygene, Equinoxe and Magnetic Fields. The only relief was that I was considered a bit cooler in my bro and his friends eyes, when listening to it, cause Zoolook and Zoolookologie were very cool with the whole electric boogie scene going on.

I love the album today and has for many years!

Jett Moonwing - Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:12 pm

Ah, I still remember listening to my dad's Zoolook tape when I was very young. I guess it was the first thing that really sparked my imagination. I used to imagine various strange creatures making the sounds I heard on the tape. One of them happened to be a weird over-sized mantis type thing...and then years later of course, I saw a vid of Paris La Defence. I was surprised to see that the giant silver mantis during Zoolookologie was not far off the mantis I had imagined as a kid! :shock: :P
jp8000 - Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:15 pm

10/10
Bj-1 - Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:32 am

My introduction to Jarre! Still among my favorites by him. Not perfect, but VERY interesting, almost avant-gardistic album. Excellent! 8.5/10
jarrekid - Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:19 am

It used to scare me when I was 4....

Absolutely fantastic album. Funk + Linn + Synths. Bloody brilliant. 11/10.

PMgep - Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:57 am

Ethnicolor... WOW!
Big time - Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:09 pm

A damn great album!!! :D :D A classic!!!!! :D :D
Livgivare - Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:08 pm

One man I know, bought the LP, listen to it once, said it wasn't listenable and gave it away to his son.

Love Leelene

Nico_Noyau - Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:19 pm

I discovered JMJ because of the listening of this one, I discovered it among my father's CDs
My first impression :
"uh ? gotta listen to this one an other time louder"
I loved it from the first time and I asked my father to make me listening to Oxygčne & Equinoxe LPs
My rate : 999/10
My favourite album :P

Rompipompi - Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:46 pm

Now in my opinion this album showed a new Jarre in a very positive way. Although the album sounds very dated now, at that time it was very innovative. Very cool use of the (at that time very experimental) sampler. Ethnicolour (or is it Ethnicolor?) is a top 5 Jarre-track. I also like Diva and Zoolook (amazing voice-sample-rhythm). Wooloomooloo sounds very futuristic machine-like, I also like this track.
Robi - Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:57 pm

Only: 11/10 :kiss kiss:
Christophe - Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:24 pm

Leelene wrote:
One man I know, bought the LP, listen to it once, said it wasn't listenable and gave it away to his son.

Love Leelene

:shock: :shock:

Greetzzz...

marnix - Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:48 pm

Can anyone tell me how to use quotes in my messages? I tried but I don't get it right. Anyway, Zoolook is an outstanding and innovating piece of music that will never sound dated, it's too original for that. And digital sampling at that time wasn't experimental anymore, just a bit of a cold shower for the average musician who thought "I got to get me one of those samplers" as they were veery expensive:D
Big time - Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:15 am

Rompipompi wrote:
Now in my opinion this album showed a new Jarre in a very positive way. Although the album sounds very dated now, at that time it was very innovative. Very cool use of the (at that time very experimental) sampler. Ethnicolour (or is it Ethnicolor?) is a top 5 Jarre-track. I also like Diva and Zoolook (amazing voice-sample-rhythm). Wooloomooloo sounds very futuristic machine-like, I also like this track.


I don´t think it sounds dated!!! :D :wink:

Ronja - Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:00 pm

marnix wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to use quotes in my messages?

There is an option "quote" in the top of every message, clicking it you'll have a possibility to write post with quotation of whole or with the part of the message.

marnix - Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:14 pm

sorry, not seeing the nice boxed quotations in my experiments, take no notice
Ronja - Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:18 pm

If you edit your post writing [quote="Ronja"] at the beginning, I'll be quoted in your post up.
Try it! :)

GeeJee - Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:19 pm

marnix wrote:
sorry, not seeing the nice boxed quotations in my experiments, take no notice


I have send you a PM
Check your private messages on top of the page. ;)

marnix - Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:22 pm

[quote="ronja"], just see if it works
marnix - Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:27 pm

GeeJee wrote:
marnix wrote:
sorry, not seeing the nice boxed quotations in my experiments, take no notice


I have send you a PM
Check your private messages on top of the page. ;)


I've read your pm, so I hope I'm doing it right, quoting you as a test.

Ronja - Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:28 pm

It worked! :D
GeeJee - Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:28 pm

Wahey.. there ya go :D

Let's return ontopic :)

marnix - Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:30 pm

Yess, I got it, now I'm a proper forum dude :D thanks GeeJee
marnix - Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:41 pm

Thanks Ronja also for your advise, Ethnicolor is brilliant!
Christophe - Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:05 pm

marnix wrote:
Thanks Ronja also for your advise, Ethnicolor is brilliant!

Yeah... :D 8) :wink:

Greetzzz...

Aneka65 - Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:39 pm

Album JMJ Zoolook great music :fine: :P .
42ekar - Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:59 pm

I remember they played "Zoolook" as an outro of the swedish science tv-program for children, "Hjärnkontoret". One of my favorite programs as a child. :mrgreen:

I think Zoolook is a weird album, but definatly in a good way. My favorites are Zoolook and Blah Blah Cafe

And is there any difference of the original Zoolook and the remix? I haven't even heard the original so I don't know :mrgreen:

Pat Gleeson - Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:07 pm

42ekar wrote:

And is there any difference of the original Zoolook and the remix? I haven't even heard the original so I don't know :mrgreen:


The tracks 'Zoolook' and 'Zoolookologie' are slightly different between the releases. I personally prefer the originals. Check out the Sony 1997 remastered CD which reinstated the originals, and added a few seconds to 'Ethnicolor'.

42ekar - Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:40 pm

Pat Gleeson wrote:
42ekar wrote:

And is there any difference of the original Zoolook and the remix? I haven't even heard the original so I don't know :mrgreen:


The tracks 'Zoolook' and 'Zoolookologie' are slightly different between the releases. I personally prefer the originals. Check out the Sony 1997 remastered CD which reinstated the originals, and added a few seconds to 'Ethnicolor'.

Where did they come from? :mrgreen:

It's hard to find anything that's Jarre here in sweden, at least were I live...

Pat1982 - Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:14 pm

I found verry little difference when listening to the original version of Zoolook.
Actually I didn't heard it until the 3th time :P
The remixed version uses a little extra reverb or something like that, and at the final 30 sec. there is an effect missing.

The track Zoolookologie has more difference that is easily hearable.
some effects are missing, others mixed different. and especially from 1:51 to 2:25 and again 3:03 to the end sound quite unfinished.

So, the remixed versions are indeed better than the originals, if you have that 1984 or 1997 version you'd better change :mrgreen:

Petr - Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:43 pm

Pat Gleeson wrote:


The tracks 'Zoolook' and 'Zoolookologie' are slightly different between the releases. I personally prefer the originals. Check out the Sony 1997 remastered CD which reinstated the originals, and added a few seconds to 'Ethnicolor'.


Please can you describe which part is added or prolonged in Ethnicolor? Do you mean Eth I or Eth. II? I have both versions released by Polydor.

Jakob BC - Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:26 pm

'Ethnicolor' is usually just 'Ethnicolor I'.

EDIT: I might have misunderstood your question about parts :P

Pat Gleeson - Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:03 pm

Quote:
Please can you describe which part is added or prolonged in Ethnicolor? Do you mean Eth I or Eth. II? I have both versions released by Polydor.


I mean Ethnicolor I :D

If you listen carefully, you will hear an extra few seconds from 6'46" to 6'53".
The main note sustains longer, and there's an extra bell toll :D

Pat1982 - Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:21 pm

Pat Gleeson wrote:
If you listen carefully, you will hear an extra few seconds from 6'46" to 6'53".
The main note sustains longer, and there's an extra bell toll :D


hehe indeed :D
i'm not sure I would have noticed if you hadn't specified the times :P

Pat Gleeson - Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:08 pm

I'd been listening to it most days since it's release, so when the remaster come out, I could instantly hear the difference. :D
tinmachine - Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:04 pm

This was the third Jarre CD I got in late 1988, after Revolutions and Equinoxe. I hadn't heard anything about Zoolook, but was kind of expecting something different, and it was. I had the remixed re-release one, which had Zoolookologie remix as track 3 and Zoolook remix as track 5. I kept listening to Zoolookologie as I thought it really funny, upbeat and delightful, and is still in my top 5 favourite Jarre tracks.

I got the original 1984 release on CD when it was remastered during the 90's. Found the original version of Zoolook to be similar but "flatter" sounding and not as good, and the "tsut" voices to be missing during the start of the choruses to Zoolookologie to be annoying. Also Ethnicolor was longer, it drags on a bit too long in my opinion as the slow section finishes before the rhythm section kicks in.

I also think there may be differences in the length of Blah Blah Cafe, although this may be with Images or Music For Supermarkets.

But for me, Zoolook is an album of 3 outstanding tracks (Ethnicolor I, Zoolookologie and Zoolook), the rest I really have to be in the mood for! But not taking anything away, it is highly innovative and different and really proves Jarre's creative genius.

PS - also noticed the 1985 remixed CD names the track "Woolloomooloo" rather than "Wooloomooloo"!

PPS - As some may know I'm a big PLD fan, and loved the Ethnicolor/Zoolookologie live performance. One of the most amazing live moments I've witnessed, especially when Zoolookologie kicked in!

PPPS - Most times when I listen to Zoolook, I start to think about Americans walking around in shorts eating burgers in some downtown park!!!

moviemaker - Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:46 am

tinmachine wrote:

PPPS - Most times when I listen to Zoolook, I start to think about Americans walking around in shorts eating burgers in some downtown park!!!


Boy... is this a myopic view of a nation of people... :P

mathetes1963 - Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:04 pm

moviemaker wrote:
tinmachine wrote:

PPPS - Most times when I listen to Zoolook, I start to think about Americans walking around in shorts eating burgers in some downtown park!!!


Boy... is this a myopic view of a nation of people... :P


Yep.

Pisuke85 - Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:17 pm

Zoolook is by far my favorite album! I found it very innovative and remarkable. Here Jarre's work on voice sampling has reached an apogee, and the way those samples structured the whole album, from bass line to drums, is incredible. When I first heard it in the mid 90's I was amazed, and I remember my stepmother asked me to decrease the volume many times, as she just couldn't bear those weird sounds. :P

Personally, I don't like the remixed versions of Zoolook and Zoolookologie. I like better the 1984 original ones, because I find that the voice samples are more incisive and can be heard better, while they're more blended with the accompaniment in the remixes. Besides, the original Zoolookologie contains more rhythm sections that contribute to the electric ambiance of the track.

Ethnicolor is an excellent track too. Jarre talked about "Images" floating in our mind when listening to his music... As for Ethnicolor, I usually think about oppressed people, or any kind of dictatorship, because of those sporadic, wistful shouts.

Here is my customer review from the French iTunes Music Store :
Quote:
Voilà un album plein d'audace, cosmopolite, minutieusement travaillé. Un son recherché, très exigeant et pas toujours facile d'écoute, mais pourtant exceptionnel. L'échantillonage de voix humaine, mixée et remixée, notamment par le synthétiseur Fairlight CMI, constitue la clef de voûte de l'album. On est entraîné dans un univers surréaliste et polyglotte, où les voix sont partout, structurant les morceaux des basses aux percussions. La composition musicale reste assez pauvre, comme bien souvent chez Jarre, mais on prend plaisir à (ré)entendre toutes les subtilités sonores qui fourmillent ça et là : les appels plaintifs qui se dissipent dans Ethnicolor, l'oscillation entre voyelles "a" et "é" dans Zoolook, l'ambiance électrique de Zoolookologie, les saxos moqueurs de Blah Blah Café, les sons de supermarchés... Un album excentrique et grisant !

AnDrOiD - Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:21 pm

When I first listened to Zoolook in 1984, I was very disappointed... too different from the other albums. :P :smoke:
Kanta - Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:24 pm

I :love: this album. 8) I remember my sister purchasing the album on cassette. We played it so much that the tape got stuck in the player and came out of the cassette. Tried to put it back in but the tape was ruined. :(

My favorite tracks have got to be Ethnicolor and Ethnicolor II. If you listen very carefully at the end of Ethnicolor II you will hear a man's voice speaking (could be JMJ himself), one word like Nim, that is my sister's name. :smoke:

moviemaker - Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:17 pm

Yes, an amazing album and I think a bit ahead of it's time with it's fusion of all sorts of things and a great line-up with Adrian Belew of King Crimson, Laurie Anderson and Frédéric Rousseau!!!

I thought for sure Metamorphoses was gonna be a sort of follow-up to this, especially with LAurie Anderson coming back but alas was not meant to be (even if is a pretty great album, just not a lot of new ways of thinking and discovery to it like Zoolook--if that makes sense?).

Though I always thought the covers were similar so maybe it is a sequal of sorts...



Jakob BC - Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:30 pm

Never really thought about the similar (zoo)look, but yes there is something about it :P
GeeJee - Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:56 pm

I noticed the similarities before indeed. Vocal samples play a big role in both albums too... :wink2:
Normund - Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:08 am

In me Zoolook brings up the visions of a purely ethnic nature, especially keeping in mind the context of Australia. Wasn't this exactly what the author himself wanted to convey and express?
For me there are no vocals in Zoolook. And you can read the names of all those languages used as phrases or words in the recording in the booklet to agree that it is really another tower of Babel to expect any certainty to come out of it. I liked that approach but I form no connection between Zoolook and Metamorphoses. I do form a link between, say, Revolution, Revolutions and C'est la vie easily.

Pisuke85 - Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:46 am

I've never seen any similarity between Zoolook and Metamorphoses.
Maybe there are vocal performances and the participation of Laurie Anderson among other people, but both albums have a really different spirit. Even the portraits on the covers don't convey the same atmosphere.

Normund - Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:26 pm

Pisuke85 wrote:
I've never seen any similarity between Zoolook and Metamorphoses.
Maybe there are vocal performances and the participation of Laurie Anderson among other people, but both albums have a really different spirit. Even the portraits on the covers don't convey the same atmosphere.


Hear, hear!
As to the portraits, I think that used for Zoolook is an example of computer-generated imagery whereas the one used for Metamorphoses purports to use the smear effect of a long shutter speed. Nothing in common, except for the person portrayed. This also applies to colour solutions.

CLUBMIX - Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:42 pm

there's some sort of "smear effect" on the right edge of the "Zoolook" front cover as well, so speaking about "nothing in common" was just a bit too fast ;)

But as was pointed out before, there are more similarities between these two albums: firstly, the participation of Laurie Anderson, then secondly the "piece by piece" character of the album (instead of one long piece cut into bits, like it was done before), thirdly the kind of ethnical character of the album(s).

But apart from any possible similarities these 2 albums (or any other album) could have, here's what I think "Zoolook" is all about:

I first saw that album in 1984 in record stores, wondering how they did the cover artwork. When I got the album cassette from my Grandma, I listened to it over and over again feeling a bit disappointed by this "piece by piece" character of the album (like mentioned before), as it didn't quit fit into the "Oxygène" and "Equinoxe" feeling, neither piece-wise, nor style-wise.

I was so amazed by the cover artwork that I decided to draw it myself, and the only possibility I had to look after while drawing, was the cover of a cassette tape. Imagine how small that was compared to the drawing I then managed to do, which was about 3 times bigger.

More I listened to the album, more I liked it, even though others kept saying that (especially when "Ethnicolor" kicked in) it was "ghost music". I began to get used to the fact that nearly everything that can be heard on the album is made from samples and found it cool what music "instruments" were able to do - at that time! I then also started to get interested in electronic music equipment and tried to gather as much information about it as possible. It also hapened that I had a little notebook where I noted all electronic music instruments (and related stuff) in huge lists. Later on, I tried to complete these lists with cut-out images of these instruments... :)

Well, "Zoolook" is still one of my favourite albums, and everytime I listen to the last track ("Ethnicolor II"), I get extremely melancholic....

Jakob BC - Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:25 pm

Ethnicolor II is an overheard track. I really like it :) I remember how much Ethnicolor I put my mind on a work many years ago, and that was only the first part of the track (from the Images album)
Normund - Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:47 pm

CLUBMIX wrote:
there's some sort of "smear effect" on the right edge of the "Zoolook" front cover as well, so speaking about "nothing in common" was just a bit too fast ;)



In terms of photography I saw there and have said exactly what I meant to say. There is a vast difference between some sort of digitally created smear and the optical 'in situ' smear I described.

CLUBMIX - Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:35 pm

Normund wrote:
CLUBMIX wrote:
there's some sort of "smear effect" on the right edge of the "Zoolook" front cover as well, so speaking about "nothing in common" was just a bit too fast ;)



In terms of photography I saw there and have said exactly what I meant to say. There is a vast difference between some sort of digitally created smear and the optical 'in situ' smear I described.


I can remember having written some sort of and "smear effect" (with the "" symbols). I was also talking about similarities and not identical details. But thanks for the clarification. I guess I wouldn't have recognized that vast difference...

jarrekid - Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:35 pm

I can remember, I think it was in COTM, that Jarre was asked which album Metamorphoses would be closest to before its release... He said it sounded very different to any of his albums but that the closest one was probably Zoolook.
GeeJee - Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:37 pm

And if Mr. Normund thinks they don't have any similarities, doesn't mean somebody else can't think there are... I've heard more people say they do have similarites... :roll:

jarrekid wrote:
I can remember, I think it was in COTM, that Jarre was asked which album Metamorphoses would be closest to before its release... He said it sounded very different to any of his albums but that the closest one was probably Zoolook.


Thats what I recall as well.

Normund - Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:48 pm

CLUBMIX wrote:
I guess I wouldn't have recognized that vast difference...

Sh*t happens, like it did last night in Riga (as shown in links in my www blog). But it's really nice that you admit this. Are you into photography, to judge clearly?
I don't mind you saying about this matter anything you may like, for my part. :)

Finaero - Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:11 pm

A random find from a Z-movie clip featured at the end of a gaming video:

https://www.youtube.com/w...53G5N0#t=17m45s

;)

shadow - Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:02 pm

The hell did I just watch?!
Finaero - Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:38 pm

Man, another example of Zoolook being sampled/used in the 1980s (or early 1990s -not as background music this time, though) https://www.youtube.com/w...HiaxE#t=106m10s

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