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[spoiler] Marigny, 15th December concert
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Kanta 
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:39 am   

Okay. :D But please continue the discussion here about Oxygene 3D CD & DVD Box Set. :wink:
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radek tymecki 


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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:28 am   

Equinoxe wrote:
ralf wrote:
Why MemoryMoog working perfect when JMJ playing solo in Oxy 2 and broken few seconds later??


Temperature fluctuations,the Memory Moogs were terribly unreliable instruments anyway,they suffered problems with Heat dissapation,they have one of the largest Heatsinks on the Back panel ever fitted to a synthesizer,A heatsink this size is usually fitted to amplifiers...so it just shows you the issues they had with trying to keep the Circuits at a steady temperature by removing the excess heat generated,add to that the Fluctutations of temperature throughout the Performance in the Theatre,recipe for a very Unstable Memory Moog..Something Jarre can do nothing about..as we can see.He would have been better to stop playing it ,then retune it after it had cooled slightly,trying to tune it whilst still playing is adding Electricity resistance to the circuits which generate the heat.


That's right but... Memorymoog has autotune function aswell ;) btw JMJ should play constantly one note (G or D - depends on tonation] to get better tune :) Anyway... It seemed a bit impossible because... VCO was controlled by LFO :) So probably he should set lfo to 0 or sth :)

Look at his hands. JMJ plays same note and You can hear pitch down/up's so I'm quite sure it was VCO's LFO
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:34 am   

radek tymecki wrote:
Equinoxe wrote:
ralf wrote:
Why MemoryMoog working perfect when JMJ playing solo in Oxy 2 and broken few seconds later??


Temperature fluctuations,the Memory Moogs were terribly unreliable instruments anyway,they suffered problems with Heat dissapation,they have one of the largest Heatsinks on the Back panel ever fitted to a synthesizer,A heatsink this size is usually fitted to amplifiers...so it just shows you the issues they had with trying to keep the Circuits at a steady temperature by removing the excess heat generated,add to that the Fluctutations of temperature throughout the Performance in the Theatre,recipe for a very Unstable Memory Moog..Something Jarre can do nothing about..as we can see.He would have been better to stop playing it ,then retune it after it had cooled slightly,trying to tune it whilst still playing is adding Electricity resistance to the circuits which generate the heat.


That's right but... Memorymoog has autotune function aswell ;) btw JMJ should play constantly one note (G or D - depends on tonation] to get better tune :) Anyway... It seemed a bit impossible because... VCO was controlled by LFO :) So probably he should set lfo to 0 or sth :)

Look at his hands. JMJ plays same note and You can hear pitch down/up's so I'm quite sure it was VCO's LFO


I have the feeling that JMJ does not play the same way the Memorymoog when he plays the end of Oxy 2 and Oxy 4. When he plays Oxy 2 (or when he plays the EMS), he is concentrated, and when he plays Oxy 4, he "acts" a lot (big gestures, he seems self-confident, etc...). Should be interesting to compare all solos in Oxy 4. If they really look the same, and given the fact that it seems that JMJ played with the volume of the Memorymoog after Oxy 2, yes, the conclusion is obvious : Oxy 4 solo is NOT live.

Now.... The debate and the question : if Oxy 4 is not live, what can we say about that. Is it a rip-off, is it normal? The risk to badly play the end of Oxy 2 is lower than missing Oxy 4. I imagine that JMJ did not want to jeopardize the concert by missing the lead of Oxy 4, and knowing the fact that it may be harder to play than the female voice on the EMS, they decided to make it not live. That's a choice. Therefore Oxy live is a "mitigated" risk. That's not bad after all, that's art : a bit of mystification. Without a part of mystification it might be that Jarre would not be famous. And, even in the Oxygene LP, there is also some part of mystification. Mystification is the secret of the magic.

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radek tymecki 


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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:55 pm   

I suggested this in other threads.... Yes.... JMJ is very concentrated when he plays live...

When he playbacks he's actin totally diffrent [as u suggested]
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chlu 


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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:49 pm   

Hi Again

So here are the Link to the Photos I took from this Concert...

Jean Michel Jarre - 15.12.2007 Marigny; Paris


Greetings

chlu
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:43 pm   

WOW! how wonderful they are... I knew you're a good photographer dude
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Kanta 
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:29 pm   

Many thanks for sharing your :pics: , Chlu. A pleasure to see them. :D
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NIA, Birmingham - 2010
O2 Arena, London - 2010
Zénith Aréna, Lille - 2010
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:57 pm   

chlu wrote:
Hi Again

So here are the Link to the Photos I took from this Concert...

Jean Michel Jarre - 15.12.2007 Marigny; Paris


Greetings

chlu


W00T

Your photos ROCK, Chris!

Achtung! :D
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Jon 


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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:44 am   

Nice photo's, Chlu :D
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