While we're all thinking about that, does anyone know someone at China's CCTV who has a TV recording of any of the China Concerts
Now there's a DVD extra if I ever saw one
This has been brought up a few times in the past. Nothing come up on the "search"?
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matt222
Age: 45 Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 619 Location: Derby, England
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:56 pm
If you watch the video footage of Equinoxe 5, Jarre is seen flitting from one keyboard to another playing the main melody ( as is Perrier ) and then the bass line - only when his fingers play in time to the bassline, he hits 2 notes together. The bass is a mono line. Not real playing there. Anyway, what happens when he stops playing the bassline and shoots over to play the main melody again - in reality it doesn't ring true at all just like when he played those enormous magic keyboards - swapping from one sound to another.ALL SHOW.
An understanding of the scores for these pieces is an insight into how much miming Jarre does.
The China concert performances where claimed to be entirely live and I believe they were - just listen to how Equinoxe 4 differs from the album version. Reason being, no way he could re-create it perfectly on stage live - too many random noise manipulations to replicate. Equinoxe 5 on the vhs is just the original vinyl recording I believe put in when the video was edited.
Age: 31 Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 5379 Location: Finland
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:29 pm
Oh my god, JMJ has mimed?
Anyhow, I'm still wondering who was the genius who seriously named 20 seconds of ping pong or whatever as Les Chants Magnetiques I instead of including that stuff at the end of the track that came before it (Orient Express, mmmaybe?).
I guess it was effective enough for one TV broadcast of PLD to actually subtitle the ping pong ball sounds in the beginning of PLD's Souvenir of China "Magnetic Fields 1", only to change to "Souvenir of China" not that long afterwards.
(Then again, the same broadcast actually called the intro to MF2 "Diva"... weird stuff)
tinmachine
Age: 46 Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 378 Location: Kent, United Kingdom
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:38 pm
Yes, I felt a bit disappointed back in 1989 when I bought the double CD release of Concerts In China, to think how much of a rip-off Magnetic Fields 1 was - 21 seconds of ping pong sounds to serve as an intro to Magnetic Fields 3. And then to find out Band In The Rain was Equinoxe 8 and Last Rumba was Magnetic Fields 5!
Not a bad album, but sometimes I wish he'd have just done a studio album of the new tracks.
By the way, hadn't heard about he Diva caption for PLD MF2, but I have always thought the introduction sounded very Diva-like! As I've said in other posts, the new versions of tracks played at PLD were outstanding, and was the one concert that really deserved an album release!
Age: 31 Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 5379 Location: Finland
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:45 pm
Yeah I think JMJ even used some Diva samples but definitely some Laurie Anderson leftover materials.
Also, the radio broadcast of the first concert is also a bit mysterious... with all the "NOBODY CLAPPED" stories and yet you can still hear applause every now and then (albeit not really during the songs themselves) even though they might be a bit refined... and after MF2 the audience noises go somewhat more audible and the Chinese announceress says something and then that random music that plays after Equinoxe 7 on the album plays... so I guess it wasn't a direct broadcast anyhow.
moviemaker
Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 1501 Location: HollywoodLAND
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:33 am
Live or edited... The Concerts In China album is f^*king brilliant!
Quintessential Jarre and an album that never grows old.
Age: 50 Joined: 06 Sep 2006 Posts: 7838 Location: (UK) On the toilet reading a newspaper
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:19 pm
Finaero wrote:
Oh my god, JMJ has mimed?
I know, came as a shock to me aswell
_________________ Jarre concerts attended - Destination Docklands 1988 - Paris La Defense 1990 - Europe In Concert 1993 (Manchester & London) - Oxygene Tour 1997 (Birmingham)
"A group of men and woman entered the laboratory one month ago to live in a smell free world. Body odour, sweaty arms pits and smelly feet are to create the energy to survive. A total mystery surrounds this experiment, and it's project code name: B.O and Smell'i "
Age: 31 Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 5379 Location: Finland
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:51 pm
AnDrOiD wrote:
Jakob BC wrote:
AnDrOiD wrote:
All live albums are processed in a studio.
Depends on what you mean. In this case other instruments were added, besides the studio tracks.
I mean all kind of processing, including adding sounds. An official live album is never just released as recorded at the event.
Wow, Captain Obvious , everything that has ever been published has gone through processing in one way or the other. If you want straight recordings, you should watch/read/listen to/eat bootlegs
Age: 31 Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 5379 Location: Finland
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:50 pm
... which was from the first gig that had noticeably less power and a different audience. Or maybe JMJ hired a bunch of French-Chinese to look happy for the concert video as well?
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