Zoolook: same errors as the 1997 remaster. Left & right are swapped, crossfade between both parts of Ethnicolor 1 is nonexistant.worcell wrote:One more question about those remasters. As far as i know Rendez Vous was re relased due to some faults. Were there any other faulty moments in this series (i read about chronologie and minor ones in oxygene, but im not sure)
Because they're careless.SebAudio wrote:Why do they change things when they do remasters ?
Where is this crossfade that you speak of?Dr_Jones wrote:Zoolook: same errors as the 1997 remaster. Left & right are swapped, crossfade between both parts of Ethnicolor 1 is nonexistant.
1st (slow) part and 2nd (fast) part don't flow into eachother (just like Chrono 1.1 and Chrono 1.2)Jote wrote:Where is this crossfade that you speak of?Dr_Jones wrote:Zoolook: same errors as the 1997 remaster. Left & right are swapped, crossfade between both parts of Ethnicolor 1 is nonexistant.
Interesting, could you post a short snippet of both the "missing crossfade" and "proper crossfade"? As I mostly have digital copies now (and why I completely forgot that Oxygene 10 had different intro on vinyl/tape) I wonder whether I've been listening to a proper one all those years. One of them says it's 1997 but it seems to have the crossfade...Dr_Jones wrote:1st (slow) part and 2nd (fast) part don't flow into eachother (just like Chrono 1.1 and Chrono 1.2)Jote wrote:Where is this crossfade that you speak of?Dr_Jones wrote:Zoolook: same errors as the 1997 remaster. Left & right are swapped, crossfade between both parts of Ethnicolor 1 is nonexistant.
Thanks. But... I don't really see any difference with regards to crossfading. In both instances the slow part fades out and in parallel the fast part fades in. What am I missing? The only difference is the extra bell sound at 0:12 which makes the slow part a couple of seconds longer.Dr_Jones wrote:Ethnicolor 1 in 1984: http://drjones.home.xs4all.nl/jarre/mp3 ... olor84.mp3
Ethnicolor 1 in 1997 (this is from the 2015 CD): http://drjones.home.xs4all.nl/jarre/mp3 ... olor97.mp3
In the pre-1997 releases, the 2nd part starts earlier compared to the 1997+ releases, which results in a longer, but incorrect, version for the latter releases. It's like the engineer forgot to push the play for the 2nd part.Jote wrote:Thanks. But... I don't really see any difference with regards to crossfading. In both instances the slow part fades out and in parallel the fast part fades in. What am I missing? The only difference is the extra bell sound at 0:12 which makes the slow part a couple of seconds longer.Dr_Jones wrote:Ethnicolor 1 in 1984: http://drjones.home.xs4all.nl/jarre/mp3 ... olor84.mp3
Ethnicolor 1 in 1997 (this is from the 2015 CD): http://drjones.home.xs4all.nl/jarre/mp3 ... olor97.mp3
I don't see it like that. In the 1997+ versions there's that extra bell sound (around 0:12 in your snippet). It cannot be heard in the shorter versions. If it was just a matter of starting the fast part earlier in pre-1997 releases you'd be still able to hear this sound during the crossfade. So there's definitely different editing giving us approx 6 seonds extra of the slow part. And more "Ethnicolor" is always good!Dr_Jones wrote:In the pre-1997 releases, the 2nd part starts earlier compared to the 1997+ releases, which results in a longer, but incorrect, version for the latter releases. It's like the engineer forgot to push the play for the 2nd part.
I've always thought the same - and said so on the long departed Jarre.com forumJote wrote: So there's definitely different editing giving us approx 6 seconds extra of the slow part. And more "Ethnicolor" is always good!
I would call it "alternate" rather than "incorrect".
Old question, but I don't think it was answered. There is an extra bass note, which drives me nuts as well. Here's a screenshot - the proper start of the verse is marked by the green line, the extra beat in translucent red.Dr_Jones wrote:? I don't hear it. I have the French 1986 CD as a reference, listening to it right now. Can you tell me when it happens in the song?starmike wrote:The problem with the original release of Rendez-Vous on CD is that IV has a mistake on it. There's an extra beat in the intro. The cassette and vinyl versions from 1986 are correct. This drove me nuts for years so I eventually removed it using Audacity. The new remastered version is corrected.shadow wrote:Bought myself the original release of Rendez-Vous on CD. It sounds so good!