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Unedited Waiting for Cousteau
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chronos

Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 136
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:06 am   

AERO62 wrote:
The question is - where can we find this unedited version in its entirety ? Was someone thoughtful enough to record it during that day? I've asked the uploader of the video but he hasn't replied :(


sorry bud, the question is this..

Why the heck do you want to listen to an hours worth of what is essentially back-round music whilst trying to find bits that's not on the cd version...
 
AERO62 

Joined: 31 Mar 2007
Posts: 375
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:53 am   

chronos wrote:
AERO62 wrote:
The question is - where can we find this unedited version in its entirety ? Was someone thoughtful enough to record it during that day? I've asked the uploader of the video but he hasn't replied :(


sorry bud, the question is this..

Why the heck do you want to listen to an hours worth of what is essentially back-round music whilst trying to find bits that's not on the cd version...


Because I enjoy it, got a problen with that ? :o
 
AERO62 

Joined: 31 Mar 2007
Posts: 375
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:07 pm   

thhedk wrote:
AERO62 wrote:
Ok, I just found this footage before the concert and if you listen carefuly after 9:55, then you could hear the bits that aren't on cd version. I'm not sure if it's just an echo or not. And then the parts after 10:47 and 10:57 also sound new to me.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...9lJWEG4M#t=595s


WTF! That is NOT an echo, it sounds like a new variation.


I guess it was an echo after all. Same thing happened in Gdansk - http://www.mediafire.com/?k6wax4uc8pcjcns
 
Pat1982 

Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Posts: 138
Location: Netherlands
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:20 pm   

I was checking the French Wikipedia Wikipedia and saw this:
"On obtient alors le morceau complet à savoir : Concert d'images présent sur le CD offert durant « Jarre expo » et qui servit d'ambiance sonore à cette même exposition."

Translated: "One can optain the complete song on the givaway CD "Jarre expo" offered during Concert images and served as a soundscape to the same exposure."

This got me intrigued as I never have heard about that CD.
Does anyone else?

At this youtube video there supposedly is the 'full' version.
The picture shows videotheque de Paris (audio-visual, meaning the also have vinyl LP's), and the image is different from the book cover:



So does it really exist? And if not, then what is on the above 'videotheque' image?
 
millau 

Age: 48
Joined: 16 Aug 2010
Posts: 81
Location: France
Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 10:47 pm   

Pat1982 wrote:
I was checking the French Wikipedia Wikipedia and saw this:
"On obtient alors le morceau complet à savoir : Concert d'images présent sur le CD offert durant « Jarre expo » et qui servit d'ambiance sonore à cette même exposition."

Translated: "One can optain the complete song on the givaway CD "Jarre expo" offered during Concert images and served as a soundscape to the same exposure."

This got me intrigued as I never have heard about that CD.
Does anyone else?

At this youtube video there supposedly is the 'full' version.
The picture shows videotheque de Paris (audio-visual, meaning the also have vinyl LP's), and the image is different from the book cover:

Image

So does it really exist? And if not, then what is on the above 'videotheque' image?


In 1989 there was an exposition(Concert d'images) in Paris about jarre with pictures and some instruments of Jarre. The background music on the exposition was this track that came a year later out as "En attendent Cousteau". The track is longer than the CD version. I don't think that this track officialy was released.
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Pat1982 

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:39 am   

millau wrote:
In 1989 there was an exposition(Concert d'images) in Paris about jarre with pictures and some instruments of Jarre. The background music on the exposition was this track that came a year later out as "En attendent Cousteau". The track is longer than the CD version. I don't think that this track officialy was released.

Ofcourse I know all that (I have the book that is why compared it with the other image). I was reffering to an unknown cd-release that someone edited on wikipedia.
 
shadow 


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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 8:52 am   

Why hasn't anyone actually asked Jarre himself what the exact situation is with this track? I most certainly wouldn't mind buying a full version of the track even if it is the only track on the cd :nod:
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Dr_Jones 


Joined: 30 Mar 2006
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:42 pm   

Pat1982 wrote:
I was checking the French Wikipedia Wikipedia and saw this:
"On obtient alors le morceau complet à savoir : Concert d'images présent sur le CD offert durant « Jarre expo » et qui servit d'ambiance sonore à cette même exposition."

Translated: "One can optain the complete song on the givaway CD "Jarre expo" offered during Concert images and served as a soundscape to the same exposure."

This got me intrigued as I never have heard about that CD.
Does anyone else?

At this youtube video there supposedly is the 'full' version.
The picture shows videotheque de Paris (audio-visual, meaning the also have vinyl LP's), and the image is different from the book cover:

Image

So does it really exist? And if not, then what is on the above 'videotheque' image?



I do not believe this. It's been 25 years and no-one has even mentioned this CD once. I know some of the people in the Jarre community are very secretive (the infamous Whitfield Street acetates seem to have some different versions/remixes of songs and some of the fans own these CDs for years), but all us collectors have never ever seen anything related to this Jarre Expo CD.

Even with the auction catalogue of Music for Supermarkets out there, I would imagine people who attended this expo mentioning this CD anywhere, since there were more ppl at the Concert d'Images than at the MfS auction.
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Pat1982 

Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Posts: 138
Location: Netherlands
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 1:32 am   

Dr_Jones wrote:

I do not believe this. It's been 25 years and no-one has even mentioned this CD once. I know some of the people in the Jarre community are very secretive (the infamous Whitfield Street acetates seem to have some different versions/remixes of songs and some of the fans own these CDs for years), but all us collectors have never ever seen anything related to this Jarre Expo CD.

Even with the auction catalogue of Music for Supermarkets out there, I would imagine people who attended this expo mentioning this CD anywhere, since there were more ppl at the Concert d'Images than at the MfS auction.


I know, it is almost unbelievable. But yet, what is that in the picture?
It is not the book cover nor the poster from concert d'images.

I found the user who put that about quote on Wikipedia in 2008, he seems to be from France since most of his thousands of contributions are about France-related things.
I could also trace to IP adress to be owned by the French railways, so it must be a person that works there.

And the uploader from that youtube video is also French (from Orleans).
He is clearly also a Jarre-fan, as he visited some concerts and had dozens of other Jarre videos.
The could be one and the same person?

However I found a German guy who went to concert d'images, and does not mention any cd-giveaway...
http://www.doreen-und-rainer.de/topics/jarre3.php
So the conclusion must be:
- the Wikipedia editor made a mistake or put false info online?
- the image on youtube is an unknown poster or a photoshop, and the music a fake reproduction?
 
Christophe 


Age: 42
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Location: Wommelgem, Belgium
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:54 am   

Pat1982 wrote:

I know, it is almost unbelievable. But yet, what is that in the picture?
It is not the book cover nor the poster from concert d'images.

- the image on youtube is an unknown poster or a photoshop, and the music a fake reproduction?

When I see the photo I think it's a banner in some sort of plastic that they put at a wall. And, yes, they are sometimes different to the other artwork of the exposition. :wink:

Greetings,


Christophe
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shadow 


Age: 29
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 1:01 pm   

Dr_Jones wrote:
I do not believe this. It's been 25 years and no-one has even mentioned this CD once. I know some of the people in the Jarre community are very secretive (the infamous Whitfield Street acetates seem to have some different versions/remixes of songs and some of the fans own these CDs for years), but all us collectors have never ever seen anything related to this Jarre Expo CD.

Even with the auction catalogue of Music for Supermarkets out there, I would imagine people who attended this expo mentioning this CD anywhere, since there were more ppl at the Concert d'Images than at the MfS auction.


Have these actually been 'released' regularly already or are people still being arses by keeping it for themself to look at them instead of actually, you know, listening to them?
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Dr_Jones 


Joined: 30 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 10:15 am   

shadow wrote:
Have these actually been 'released' regularly already or are people still being arses by keeping it for themself to look at them instead of actually, you know, listening to them?


The latter... Most of them has not been shared. The Gagarin remix and an unreleased Tout Est Bleu Phats & Small remix have been shared though.


Anyway, Kanta posted this video from Keyboards magazine reporter Alain Mangenot, who visited JMJs studio several times and made some great reports (albeit in French, which is not my main language): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsG-NkWwk1o

In the description, it says:
"après Révolutions et avant un CD de musique ambiante à tirage limité, une rencontre avec Jean-Michel Jarre"

After Revolutions and before a limited release CD, (we) meet with Jean Michel Jarre.

Might WfC been considered to be released in a limited print?

Anyway, the video is from around 1997, since a sleeve of Oxygene 8 is filmed too.
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Pat1982 

Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Posts: 138
Location: Netherlands
Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 2:51 am   

If it exists, it might be something like Interior Music in 2001: that was limited to 1000 copies, had no catalogue number, and was given for free to the invited guests at B&O.
Maybe at Concert d'Images it was the same, but even more limited?
 
AERO62 

Joined: 31 Mar 2007
Posts: 375
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 7:56 pm   

Pat1982 wrote:


At this youtube video there supposedly is the 'full' version.


I believe this is one of the faked "full" versions. Listen carefully, it ends around 45 min (cd) fades slowly into the 20-something vinyl version and then finishes off with the latter part of the cd track again. It's just been sliced and merged into a mysterious 75 minute version, which I believe first appeared on the FTP database, uploaded by a user who has posted in this very thread that he didn't know the origin of it either.
  
 
AERO62 

Joined: 31 Mar 2007
Posts: 375
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 7:57 pm   

Trance007 wrote:
I would like to add some mess (or maybe clean up the mess :pwned: )

I've uploaded 3 versions of WFC on the database
1) /MP3 - WAV/Albums-bootlegs/Singles, Remixes, Versions, Covers, Miscellaneous/Concerts d'images (En attendant Cousteau 74 min 26).flac
I got this CDR from a Jarre fan some years ago. I don't know if it's true or a fake.


There it was.
 
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