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Finaero


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These are already available on Spotify. I guess I had never heard the Dadwater CD/Spotify version of Oxygene 8 before, because it really is horrible with a "flanger-like" deterioration in audio quality going on throughout the track (noticeable on the LP version as well, sure).

[EDIT] Come to think of it, there's something like that going on even in the 1997 LP version, but I guess it just sounds really blatant in the 2010s remasters.
 
Dr_Jones


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There's an excessive amount of white noise on Oxygene 7 too.
 
Velodynamic


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[quote="Dr_Jones"]There's an excessive amount of white noise on Oxygene 7 too.[/quote]
ah-haa-haa ... 8)

[quote="Finaero"]These are already available on Spotify.[/quote]
I've tried to compare the 2018 Spotify GOL with the GOL 2003 CD just by playing side by side and shifting input signal with my Marantz remote control.
The Spotify version sounds more narrow in channel separation and much thinner, even if I try some Dolby dynamic tricks with the signal.
Not sure if this is good or bad but as a listener I smile more with the old CD in my headphones.

Pretty much the same happens with the Metamorphoses album.
Can't imagine what they would be like as vinyl (half speed mastered) LP's.

[size=8]The CD player is a Denon DVD/(dvd-audio/sacd/hdcd) CD-player from 2004.[/size]
 
Dr_Jones


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[quote="Velodynamic"][quote="Dr_Jones"]There's an excessive amount of white noise on Oxygene 7 too.[/quote]
ah-haa-haa ... 8)[/quote]

I wasn't joking. I don't know what they did, but there's really a lot more white noise on the album.
 
Velodynamic


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[quote="Dr_Jones"][quote="Velodynamic"][quote="Dr_Jones"]There's an excessive amount of white noise on Oxygene 7 too.[/quote]
ah-haa-haa ... 8)[/quote]

I wasn't joking. I don't know what they did, but there's really a lot more white noise on the album.[/quote]
Oh ok then. I thought you were referring to the "wind effects" basically created from an EMS VCS3's variable white noises. :mrgreen:

For me there's a different story with the new Spotify release of Oxygene 7-13.
It sounds brighter and more treable'ish then my original CD. The old CD is more muffled and the new mix somehow open things up a bit.
Possibly the best version of 7-13 I've heard so far. :) The tiny *ticks* here and there are even more present now.

edit/ I just bought the 2018 CD version from Amazon. Lets hear what it's [i]really[/i] all about. ;)
  
 
Jote


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[quote="Dr_Jones"]I wasn't joking. I don't know what they did[/quote]

Boosted the trebles :>

[quote]but there's really a lot more white noise on the album.[/quote]

Same as the trilogy 2016 release or worse? That one had clicks and pops in Oxygene 9 and some of the opening solo notes of Oxygene 7 were distorted.

[quote]wind effects" basically created from an EMS VCS3's variable white noises.[/quote]

Joking aside, in Oxygene 6 (2016 for instance) they no longer sound like wind. They sound like white noise. Thanks to "precious ears".
 
Velodynamic


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[quote="Jote"]
Same as the trilogy 2016 release or worse? That one had clicks and pops in Oxygene 9 and some of the opening solo notes of Oxygene 7 were distorted.[/quote]
On Spotify they match each other perfectly and also with my CD from the Oxygene Trilogy box.
It's just a question if these music files have the same mixing as on the 2018 CD?
 
shadow


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So the new releases of Geometry and Meta are both... Meh?
 
Dr_Jones


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Curious to know too. Also, if there's changes in the artwork for all three albums, except for the covers.
 
lacobo

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An other new thing about these releases is the fact that they are now downloadable in 24 bits / 48 Khz Hi-Res audio format for my (Sony) Hi-Res walkmans. Strangely enough the new Oxygene 7-13 is only available in CD quality.

B.
 
shadow


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Actual high resolution, or the high resolution they offered for Essentials & Rarities that cut the audio off from 44.1kHz :roll:
 
Finaero


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I still like the "Oxygene 10 playing at the beginning of Oxygene 7" unintentional easter egg... sort of gives it a "humane" touch[size=9] (in the vein of that random phone ring in the middle of "Rock The Casbah", IIRC)[/size].
 
lacobo

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[quote="shadow"]Actual high resolution, or the high resolution they offered for Essentials & Rarities that cut the audio off from 44.1kHz :roll:[/quote]

Well, if I put the brightness on the highest in Spectralayers there is something visible at the high end of the frequency spectrum. Not much, but there is some sound visible (picture shows the end of C'est La Vie)

[img]http://www.lacobo.com/ForumPics\CestLaVie.png[/img]

B.
 
Velodynamic


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@locobo Man that looks horrible. :?

[quote="lacobo"]Strangely enough the new Oxygene 7-13 is only available in CD quality.
[/quote]
They're probably too lazy to make a new remaster. Go with the latest, change the graphics a bit and cash in the money. That's Sony.
 
shadow


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[quote="lacobo"]Well, if I put the brightness on the highest in Spectralayers there is something visible at the high end of the frequency spectrum. Not much, but there is some sound visible (picture shows the end of C'est La Vie)

[url=http://www.lacobo.com/ForumPics\CestLaVie.png]Image[/url]

B.[/quote]

What the hell is that?! This looks terrible...
 
lacobo

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[quote="shadow"]
What the hell is that?! This looks terrible...[/quote]

The zoomed in top right of the C'est La Vie file, to show the higher frequencies. This track is not very dynamic, seeing the wav at the top :D

B.
 
Velodynamic


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WAV rip from Oxygene 7 (part 1)
2018 CD release on top and 2016 Trilogy CD [Disc 2] at the bottom.

[img]https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1900/30955397788_41b4361f2c_h.jpg[/img]
I think that it's pretty safe to say they are from the same mix/remaster.

Again same track Oxygene 7, 2018 CD on top vs Sony/Dreyfus 1997 CD at the bottom.

[img]https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1928/43916720835_527ce69d31_h.jpg[/img]
 
shadow


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The 2018 and 2016 seem to be identical yeah.
 
Dr_Jones


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I'm not surprised.
 
Finaero


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I guess the [url=https://www.discogs.com/Jean-Michel-Jarre-Oxygene-7-13/release/8468801]etching on this one[/url] says it all. ;)
 
shadow


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lol, that's something else yeah :lol:
 
Herr Dunkel

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[quote="Finaero"]I still like the "Oxygene 10 playing at the beginning of Oxygene 7" unintentional easter egg... sort of gives it a "humane" touch[size=9] (in the vein of that random phone ring in the middle of "Rock The Casbah", IIRC)[/size].[/quote]

I've never been able to find that "easter egg" on my 1997 CD, the volume must be so low... Can anyone help me pinpoint where this can be heard (approx. min:sec)? Thanks!
 
Finaero


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https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ccd4on0z79iwzh/1997.wav?dl=0

And yes, even with that one you have to listen closely to hear the beat and the Theremin lead of Oxygene 10 playing faintly in the background.

(Sure, you can make O10 out better if you listen to the whole initial laser harp intro at a very louf volume, but that WAV might be the best and most ear-friendly example you can make out of it)
 
Herr Dunkel

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[quote="Finaero"]https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ccd4on0z79iwzh/1997.wav?dl=0

And yes, even with that one you have to listen closely to hear the beat and the Theremin lead of Oxygene 10 playing faintly in the background.

(Sure, you can make O10 out better if you listen to the whole initial laser harp intro at a very louf volume, but that WAV might be the best and most ear-friendly example you can make out of it)[/quote]


15 minute response time? WOW, now *that*'s customer service :-) Thank you very much Finaero!
 
Finaero


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No sweat.

[size=9](Helps that I had already posted it here http://www.zoolook.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6150&start=15 ;))[/size]
 
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