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Post Posted Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:33 am
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Velodynamic wrote:Why have I missed the album Voices? :o
Heard it on Youtube and found the CD at the swedish Ginza for like 9 bucks!
Very high DR scores on that one.
Not very fond of that album. The first track is a cheap Conquest of Paradise cash-in, but then it gets better. I don't listen to it that much though.
Post Posted Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:58 pm
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Elf wrote:Is it remastered in the usual Vangelis way? Make it sound like the original album is played inside a bathroom, then record that with an open air mike and release it and call it a remaster?
I wouldn't consider that the usual way. Direct was pretty much perfect and same goes for Page of Life which were from the same remastered release batch. And let's not forget the Chariots of Fire remaster from 2006 that was also pretty much perfect. But in regards to the boxset:

Perfect: Chariots of Fire, Mask, Invisible Connections, Opera Sauvage, The Friends of Mr. Cairo
Near perfect: Earth (three clicks in one track, these are technically present on the original master but seemed to have already been filtered out), China, Antartica (three audio drops in total), Soil Festivities (just under a minute of rain is edited out), Short Stories, Private Collection (some are perfect, some have some reverb)
Mixed: L'Apocalypse des Animaux, See You Later, (a lot of added reverb for both)

However, these are still artistic changes and if Vangelis enjoys them and thinks that the tracks sound better like this I respect that. The original CD's are still easily available. However they are also still the thirty year old CD masters unlike these that had a brand new transfer from the original magnetic tapes. The new reverb on some tracks are pretty consistent with the actual quality of the songs. However, unfortunately two albums didn't manage to escape it. See You Later sounds really 'meh'. Though Neighbours Above, My Love and Domestic Logic 1 are great to have! Also, the actual remaster in enough itself is actually pretty good.

Finaero wrote:IIRC the Direct remaster changed some of the track starting points, and now the starting points as used in the previous CD versions have a clicking sound in them. How do you even manage to do that?
Some moments were slightly changed, but no clicks anywhere where the previous original tracks starters were.
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Post Posted Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:54 pm
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Dr_Jones wrote:
Velodynamic wrote:Why have I missed the album Voices? :o
Heard it on Youtube and found the CD at the swedish Ginza for like 9 bucks!
Very high DR scores on that one.
Not very fond of that album. The first track is a cheap Conquest of Paradise cash-in, but then it gets better. I don't listen to it that much though.
Voices was the first album where it was clear that Vangelis had lost the plot. The trend that had started on The City, where he programs a rhythm which goes and goes and then he just solos on top of it, was very clear. I do like the City, though, but from then on his albums were much more static in their arrangements. His direct approach to composing left a lot to be desired, compared to the richness of the 70s and early 80s.

I do like Ask the Mountains, though.
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Post Posted Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:56 pm
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shadow wrote:
Elf wrote:Is it remastered in the usual Vangelis way? Make it sound like the original album is played inside a bathroom, then record that with an open air mike and release it and call it a remaster?
I wouldn't consider that the usual way. Direct was pretty much perfect and same goes for Page of Life which were from the same remastered release batch. And let's not forget the Chariots of Fire remaster from 2006 that was also pretty much perfect. But in regards to the boxset:
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Maybe I was a bit unfair, but the Heaven & Hell vinyl remastering was so bad that I honestly thought something was wrong with my stereo. He ruined my favourite album of his. And the additions he did to Alpha on one of his compilation albums in the 90s.... *shudder*

Not sure I'll cash out for this box. Even if there are extra tracks.
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Post Posted Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:31 pm
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I'm personally not a fan of those 2013 RCA remasters myself. The actual sound quality is excellent, but the new stylistic changes with the reverb (and even multiple edits) were rather questionable. I do recommend the Delectus set, but just get it through iTunes for €10. It's surprisingly cheap.
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Post Posted Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:38 pm
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shadow wrote:I'm personally not a fan of those 2013 RCA remasters myself. The actual sound quality is excellent, but the new stylistic changes with the reverb (and even multiple edits) were rather questionable. I do recommend the Delectus set, but just get it through iTunes for €10. It's surprisingly cheap.
Or I can just check it out on Tidal. The whole box set is there, completely streamable
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Post Posted Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:44 pm
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Or that. I'm actually curious if some of the dropouts on the CD's are a mastering error or a pressing error. It wouldn't be the first time that something like that happened.
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Post Posted Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:57 pm
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Elf wrote:
Dr_Jones wrote:
Velodynamic wrote:Why have I missed the album Voices? :o
Heard it on Youtube and found the CD at the swedish Ginza for like 9 bucks!
Very high DR scores on that one.
Not very fond of that album. The first track is a cheap Conquest of Paradise cash-in, but then it gets better. I don't listen to it that much though.
Voices was the first album where it was clear that Vangelis had lost the plot. The trend that had started on The City, where he programs a rhythm which goes and goes and then he just solos on top of it, was very clear. I do like the City, though, but from then on his albums were much more static in their arrangements. His direct approach to composing left a lot to be desired, compared to the richness of the 70s and early 80s.

I do like Ask the Mountains, though.
That's kind of funny because I found CoP to be one of the most uneventful albums I've ever heard. :)
At least something is happening in Voices. It's an entertaining album at least the first ten listenings. It feels like a somewhat more experimental Vangelis. I find a lot of associations - Mike Oldfield in the first track with the bells and bag pipe sounds. He often spices with Blade Runner strophes here and there. Echoes I think has got some mystical X-Files approach to it. Come To Me has got some Enya vibes. P.S. Is an echo of the first track. ATM is like a slow fox Twin Peaks track. Prelude is a beautiful piano piece with soft choirs and strings which can't go wrong if you're Vangelis. Losing Sleep, Messages and DIAOP goes back to the old "boring" Vangelis again, like watching a flock of lost Elephants in slow motion.
It may so be that the old classic Vangelis died there. I can't really tell as I don't listen very often to his older albums and mostly to his "obvious hits".
I think Voices was probably meant for us nincanpoops who isn't patience enough for his more classic music style. :P
The mix looks like it should for a CD from before 1997 - very nice. My subwoofer is almost too happy about this.

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Post Posted Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:10 pm
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By the way. What happened to the Forum. Vangelis ??. I can not log in, ceased to exist ??
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Post Posted Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:44 pm
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Yeah, the Vangelis forum is closed.

Speaking of Voices, I had more or less ignored that track and the album until the release of The Collection in 2012, after which I found myself strangely fond of that track (not the album, though). Then again, I've suddenly started to like the Electronic Night album version of Together Now a lot this year, so I guess it's just the effects of time. ;)
Post Posted Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:39 pm
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Finaero wrote: Then again, I've suddenly started to like the Electronic Night album version of Together Now a lot this year, so I guess it's just the effects of time. ;)
It makes me think of Crazy Frog's version of No Limit when I listen to that album. ;)
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Post Posted Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:47 pm
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Just got the Spiral 2013 remaster... well, it's not that bad. A bit more space/trebley and the extra track (previously released on a 7' single only, IIRC) is nice. 8)

... the packaging, however must be from the cheapest stock. Just trying to get the booklet out of the front slit/compartment resulted in a 1.5 cm tear in the front cover. A shame.
Post Posted Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:21 am
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I'm not sure if there was a reprint, but I really liked the packaging on the 2013 remasters in actual 2013.The actual remasters however... Yeah those I truly didn't like (outside of Direct and Page of Life).
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Post Posted Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:45 pm
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Woow. New page views, Vangelis ?? can you go there find Forum? http://www.elsew.com/vangelis.htm
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Post Posted Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:00 am
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I think we can say as a composer, improviser, keyboard player Vangelis is beyond JmJ.

However in terms of brilliance Vangelis JmJ same level.

Vangelis Nocturne piano latest release classic tracks interpreted piano, new piano tracks.







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