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"Funny" 12DOTS DVD bootleg


Post Posted Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:19 pm
Herr Dunkel


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A while ago I saw a bootleg DVD of 12DOTS on a flea market. I bought it for giggles as I had never seen that one before (and neither afterwards). Has anyone seen this?

It's a 2 DVD-R set in a regular DVD case. While not pressed, this looks somewhat "professional", as a label is printed on the discs (same image on both discs). There's even a barcode on the sleeve: 1 2434794 68341.

Why they used a blackletter typeface for the titles is anyone's guess, but hey, who am I to judge the creativity of bootleggers? ;-)

The volume labels of the discs read VOL_20041127084731 and VOL_20041127064339, so that's a late 2004 "pressing".

As for the video itself, it's the M6 broadcast (M6 logo at top right). Sometimes the picture is the regular 4:3 ratio of the time, sometimes it's 16:9, as if portions were resized.
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Concerts: 2017: Upper Darby < 2010: Lille, Liège, Paris < 1997: Lille < 1990: La Défense
Post Posted Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:54 pm
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I've not seen this one ever. Might this be a private pressing? How is the image and sound quality? Looks like it's been tampered with if the image switches between 4:3 and 16:9 (odd decision if you ask me).
Post Posted Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:38 pm
Herr Dunkel


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It could be a private pressing, but I doubt it. They wouldn't have bothered with a barcode, and wouldn't have printed a description of the show on the back. Also the sleeve is professionally printed, it's not from a personal inkjet or laser printer.

As for the video quality, it's not great - it seems to be a VHS recording digitized to DVD.

Regarding the ratio, I had another quick look at the video. While the ratio of the picture does change, the overall ratio of the "screen" doesn't, i.e. the 4:3 ratio is full screen, and the 16:9 ratio has black bands at the top and bottom that make it 4:3, and the placement of the M6 logo doesn't change throughout. So I suspect this is how the concert was actually broadcast, as resizing the images of the recording would have changed the placement of the logo. Maybe they used 2 types of cameras for the shooting.

It's just a fun item to have as I only paid like €2 for it, so, good value.
Concerts: 2017: Upper Darby < 2010: Lille, Liège, Paris < 1997: Lille < 1990: La Défense
Post Posted Sun Jun 05, 2022 4:43 pm
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Oh, good value indeed!

I'll have to watch the video I have to check if it happens there too. Gives me a good reason to rewatch it, it's been a while :-)
Post Posted Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:11 pm
AERO62


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If you are interested in sharing this one, I could try to work on denoising it. See my work in the other thread.
Post Posted Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:30 am
Herr Dunkel


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Yes, that could be interesting, thanks!

I can upload a rip of the first disc, then you can see what you can do with it. If you'd like to actually proceed I can then upload a rip of the second disc. I will try to upload in the next few days and will let you know - bear with me, it's going to be a busy week for me.
Concerts: 2017: Upper Darby < 2010: Lille, Liège, Paris < 1997: Lille < 1990: La Défense
Post Posted Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:35 pm
AERO62


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Herr Dunkel wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:30 am Yes, that could be interesting, thanks!

I can upload a rip of the first disc, then you can see what you can do with it. If you'd like to actually proceed I can then upload a rip of the second disc. I will try to upload in the next few days and will let you know - bear with me, it's going to be a busy week for me.

No problem. I am just imagening that I may already own the disc or at least a similar rip. But just to be sure, I would like to check yours out as well.

Btw if you have seen my thread on remastered vids, I have done some work on the 1 hour broadcast (the one in 4:3 format). The original looks even better since youtube adds compression. I am planning to share the mkv files eventually when I get them sorted out.

Post Posted Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:23 am
Herr Dunkel


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Hi AERO62, Yes, I have seen the good job you did with your remasters! :-)

At last, I have ripped the discs. Sending you a message with details. Cheers!
Concerts: 2017: Upper Darby < 2010: Lille, Liège, Paris < 1997: Lille < 1990: La Défense
Post Posted Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:46 pm
AERO62


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Herr Dunkel wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:23 am Hi AERO62, Yes, I have seen the good job you did with your remasters! :-)

At last, I have ripped the discs. Sending you a message with details. Cheers!
Hi,

I forgot to check this forum. I tried sending you a reply with my email address. Did you get it?
Post Posted Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:30 am
Herr Dunkel


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Yo AERO62,

I did get your message but haven't got the chance to upload the file again. Will do in the next few days and will let you know. Cheers!
Concerts: 2017: Upper Darby < 2010: Lille, Liège, Paris < 1997: Lille < 1990: La Défense







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