Welcome to the new BlahBlahCafe!

Having trouble registering? You can contact us at the "Contact us" link at the bottom of the page.

Oxygene - which version? magicvinyldigital tests


Post Posted Thu May 11, 2023 10:52 pm
Dr_Jones


User avatar
Posts: 3707
Location: Leiden, Netherlands
Likes given: 189
Likes received  : 389

Website magicvinyldigital.net has an extensive analisys of 15 different versions of the Oxygene release. These are:

Ed 1 : Vinyl ref : 2344 068 — 1976
Ed 2 : Vinyl MFSL ref : MFSL 1-212 — 1994
Ed 3 : Vinyl Japan ref : MPF 1098 — 1977
Ed 4 : Vinyl Blue ref : LC 10879 88843024681 — 2018
Ed 5: Vinyl Oxygen Trilogy ref : 88985361872 — remastered 2016
Ed 6: Cassette ref : MTO 40-77000 cb 481 — Reissue 1983
Ed 7: CD ref : FDM CD-77000 — 1983
Ed 8: CD ref : FDM 36140-2– Remastered 2007
Ed 9: CD Oxygen Trilogy ref : 88985361872 — remastered 2016
Ed 10: Streaming Qobuz
Ed 11: Streaming Qobuz Oxygen Trilogy
Ed 12: Oxygene (Live In Your Living Room) stereo 2007
Ed 13: Oxygene (Live In Your Living Room) 5.1 2007
Ed 14: Streaming Tidal
Ed 15: Streaming Tidal Oxygen Trilogy

https://magicvinyldigital.net/2022/06/2 ... -cassette/

The versions are held against four criteria :
  • Waveform and dynamique comparison
  • Spectrum comparisons
  • Spectrogram comparisons
  • Spatialization (for the 5.1 version only)
For vinyl editions there's also points for (lack of) surface noise.

Dynamic range:
Ed1: Vinyl 1976Ed2: MFSL 1994Ed3: Vinyl Japan 1976Ed4 : Vinyl Blue 2018Ed5 :Vinyl TrilogyEd6 : k7 1983Ed7 : CD 1983Ed8 : CD 2007Ed9 : CD TrilogyEd10 : QobuzEd11 : Qobuz TrilogyEd12 : Oxygen 3D StereoEd13 : Oxygen 3D 5.1Ed14 : TidalEd15 : Tidal trilogy
GLOBALDR11DR10DR12DR10DR12DR7DR12DR9DR9DR6DR9DR9DR11DR6DR10
MinDR10DR10DR10DR8DR11DR6DR10DR9DR8DR5DR8DR8DR11DR5DR8
MaxDR12DR11DR12DR11DR13DR8DR12DR10DR11DR7DR11DR11DR11DR7DR11
Oxygène (Part I)DR12DR10DR12DR10DR11DR7DR12DR10DR10DR7DR10DR9DR11DR7DR10
Oxygène (Part II)DR11DR10DR11DR8DR11DR8DR12DR10DR8DR5DR8DR8DR11DR6DR9
Oxygène (Part III)DR10DR10DR10DR9DR11DR8DR10DR9DR8DR6DR8DR8DR11DR6DR8
Oxygène (Part IV)DR11DR10DR12DR8DR12DR6DR12DR9DR8DR5DR8DR9DR11DR5DR9
Oxygène (Part V)DR12DR11DR12DR11DR12DR8DR12DR9DR10DR6DR10DR10DR11DR7DR11
Oxygène (Part VI)DR11DR11DR12DR10DR13DR7DR11DR9DR11DR6DR11DR11DR11DR6DR11
The spectrum analysis is interesting. Obviously the vinyl editions do slightly better because of the cutoff on digital media. But the most interesting thing I read was this:
The graph below represents the frequency response of Ed12 Oxygen 3D stereo (White) vs Ed10 Qobuz (Blue). The differences between the two versions are too significant to compare them. The listening shows that we have 2 different recordings.
You can listen a part of Oxygene 2 for each edition too. Part 6 of the page is the conclusion. Basicly it's what we always knew: the early editions are best, mainly Japanese vinyl for the vinyl and 1983 CD for the digital media. But it's pretty close for most of these early editions. Interesting to see that the Live in your living room editions are pretty good too and that you have to avoid streaming like the plague.

A good read!
Post Posted Sat May 20, 2023 11:29 pm
nexxxus


User avatar
Posts: 204
Likes given: 92
Likes received  : 19

Very interesting even if I do not understand all the subtleties.
It lacks the rather faithful and respectful MSFL CD version => https://www.discogs.com/fr/release/4067 ... re-Oxygene.
Like the Vinyl MSFL version well mentioned with good results. I'm glad I got, not having the original.

EDIT :
Dr_Jones wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 10:52 pm Interesting to see that the Live in your living room editions are pretty good too...
So I'm confused about Ed 12 and Ed 13. I own the version that includes the movie in stereoscopic 3D. But in fact it does not include the new masters of Oxygene I to VI in PCM or Dolby referred to.
To finally realize that there were 2 Versions with DVD.
Is it correct?
So I would have liked to find these mixes.
Post Posted Sun May 21, 2023 5:42 pm
Finaero


User avatar
Posts: 2969
Location: Finland
Likes given: 183
Likes received  : 50

For some reason, I've never been that interested in which version of Oxygene sounds the "best" - well, the last "good" one being the 2007 version, even though that had odd bits of white noise in certain tracks (most notably the "bubbling" sound effects in Oxygene 1). But it also has the most unique album version of Oxygene 4 since the bubbling transition to Oxygene 5 starts/becomes more audible a bit later on it than it does on any other version. That said, I've been "rocking" the MFSL versions of the album ever since I got those (though I sold the LP afterwards). But I guess overall any pre-2007 version will do for me. ;)

Different story with Equinoxe, for which the second French LP (FDM 83150) is my favorite edition because that just oozes the "warm analogue vinyl sound" for me through and through. The red-faced CD with the matrix nr. 01 (I think?) did get my vote in the "which edition is the best" contest years ago, but that was based only on the snippet of Equinoxe 5 so I can't say if the entire CD did count as the best version IMO as a whole). 8)
Post Posted Sun May 21, 2023 11:11 pm
Dr_Jones


User avatar
Posts: 3707
Location: Leiden, Netherlands
Likes given: 189
Likes received  : 389

nexxxus wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 11:29 pm So I'm confused about Ed 12 and Ed 13. I own the version that includes the movie in stereoscopic 3D. But in fact it does not include the new masters of Oxygene I to VI in PCM or Dolby referred to.
To finally realize that there were 2 Versions with DVD.
Is it correct?
So I would have liked to find these mixes.
The 2D DVD has the 5.1 mix of Oxygene '07, the 3D DVD oddly hasn't.
Post Posted Sun May 21, 2023 11:34 pm
nexxxus


User avatar
Posts: 204
Likes given: 92
Likes received  : 19

Dr_Jones wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 11:11 pm The 2D DVD has the 5.1 mix of Oxygene '07, the 3D DVD oddly hasn't.
So I have the bad but it's too late :roll:
I did not pay attention to the time too bad. And the 3D version I've never watched.
I don't find the ISO of the 2D version only.
Post Posted Wed May 24, 2023 10:54 pm
shadow


User avatar
Posts: 1504
Likes received  : 34

The 2D DVD has a different recording/mix of the album? The hell?!
27-11-10: Ahoy Rotterdam
22-11-16: Heineken Music Hall Amsterdam
Post Posted Wed May 24, 2023 11:05 pm
Dr_Jones


User avatar
Posts: 3707
Location: Leiden, Netherlands
Likes given: 189
Likes received  : 389

shadow wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 10:54 pm The 2D DVD has a different recording/mix of the album? The hell?!
Correct. It's got the 5.1/DTS version, which the 3D DVD lacks.
3d back.jpg
2d back.jpg
The 3D version does have the 3D gallery which has some unique music though.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Post Posted Thu May 25, 2023 8:48 pm
shadow


User avatar
Posts: 1504
Likes received  : 34

Well, guess it's time to get the 2D DVD...
27-11-10: Ahoy Rotterdam
22-11-16: Heineken Music Hall Amsterdam
Post Posted Fri May 26, 2023 9:19 pm
nexxxus


User avatar
Posts: 204
Likes given: 92
Likes received  : 19

shadow wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:48 pm Well, guess it's time to get the 2D DVD...
So that's what I did. I found a copy at a decent price.
And I can discover this New Master in DTS, DD 5.1 and LPCM.
It is a bit shorter. The fading out at the end of Oxygene VI is faster and the sound alternations from right to left and vice versa are also different compared to the stereo master in Oxygene V (in the middle which corresponds to the intro of Cities in Concert).
The animation is also nice.
Post Posted Sun May 28, 2023 8:43 pm
Jote


User avatar
Posts: 1020
Location: Lodz, Poland
Likes given: 52
Likes received  : 66

The 5.1 album is a simple 5.1 up-mix though. Nothing paricularily interesting.







  • 2020 Zoolook.nl
    Powered by phpBB forum software