Jon wrote:Yes, the hi hat does seem to skip a beat at 3:30.
Question, is this on the 88 version as well as the 97 remaster?
I'm talking about the 1988 version. Unfortunately, I don't have the remastered series, so I can't get this information.
I have the 97 remaster, and it appears on that. So it can be heard on both the original and 97 release.
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:13 am
by moviemaker
I'm re-listening to the album. Definitely like London Kid and Revolutions '88 version much more but I don't know why they replaced this version with the live version of Revolution, Revolutions for subsequent releases.
There is a cold feeling to the album (I guess as a result of the D50) and it doesn't seem to have that atmospheric feeling so that's probably where the patchwork sense comes in. Overall the tracks between the Revolutions Suite and L'Emigrant seem somewhat simplistic. I don't know why but Tokyo Kid is actually one of the coolest tracks for me. Feels like it should be in a Luc Besson film or sth.
Computer Weekend feels like an early pre-cursor to Calypso, at least in the rhythm department...
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:42 am
by gb
moviemaker wrote:
There is a cold feeling to the album (I guess as a result of the D50) and it doesn't seem to have that atmospheric feeling so that's probably where the patchwork sense comes in. Overall the tracks between the Revolutions Suite and L'Emigrant seem somewhat simplistic.
Agree. I like the first track (Revolution Industrielle), but that's all.
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:19 pm
by shadow
Who cares? I have both CD's anyway!
Re: Revolutions
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:08 pm
by SF01
Which version has the new version of Revolution, Revolutions, but is not remastered and has Industrial Revolution as one track, instead of separate parts?
Re: Revolutions
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:45 pm
by Finaero
As far as I know, "Revolution, Revolutions" premiered in the 1991 Digitally Remastered release of the album (not counting the PLD version, ofc), so that's the very first version (also the same one as in the 1994 Canadian CD) - thus making the 1997 one the first remastered version (and second altogether).
Similarly, out of the versions that I have, the 1988 West German release has all the parts of Industrial Revolution in one track and every version after that (1991 digitally remastered, 1994 Canadian, 1997 Sony) have the parts as individual tracks.
Re: Revolutions
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:26 pm
by SF01
Finaero wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:45 pm
As far as I know, "Revolution, Revolutions" premiered in the 1991 Digitally Remastered release of the album (not counting the PLD version, ofc), so that's the very first version (also the same one as in the 1994 Canadian CD) - thus making the 1997 one the first remastered version (and second altogether).
Similarly, out of the versions that I have, the 1988 West German release has all the parts of Industrial Revolution in one track and every version after that (1991 digitally remastered, 1994 Canadian, 1997 Sony) have the parts as individual tracks.
I only have a slightly warped LP. So most versions have IR in parts, including remasters, I don't know if the original release had both variants, but similar situation was with RV, some pressings had tracks separated into parts, very inconveniant, especially that the CD standard allows for more than one inxes within a track, commonly used are 00 for pregap and 01 main portion, but I've seen few CDs that utilized more indices and some good players can make a use of it, some software will ask if it should include them in splitting image to tracks and EAC can rip index-based not only track-based.
Re: Revolutions
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:28 am
by phonetic1990
Finaero wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:45 pm
Similarly, out of the versions that I have, the 1988 West German release has all the parts of Industrial Revolution in one track and every version after that (1991 digitally remastered, 1994 Canadian, 1997 Sony) have the parts as individual tracks.
As far as I know, some versions of the Revolutions album from 88 first have Industrial Revolution as one long track, but there are also editions from this year that divide the track into 4 parts. So there is no such version of the Revolutions album with the track Revolution, Revolutions and still having Industrial Revolution as one track.
Finaero wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:45 pm
Similarly, out of the versions that I have, the 1988 West German release has all the parts of Industrial Revolution in one track and every version after that (1991 digitally remastered, 1994 Canadian, 1997 Sony) have the parts as individual tracks.
As far as I know, some versions of the Revolutions album from 88 first have Industrial Revolution as one long track, but there are also editions from this year that divide the track into 4 parts. So there is no such version of the Revolutions album with the track Revolution, Revolutions and still having Industrial Revolution as one track.
Iteresting, so the only pressings that had one full track si the initial one and probably subsequent batches of pressings had it divided and that trend continued to remasters.
But iot's not a problem, copying the CD to image+cue and removing unnessesary track indices will fix the problem.
Re: Revolutions
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:03 am
by nexxxus
SF01 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:42 pm
so the only pressings that had one full track
Also I noticed some differences in the length of some tracks according to the different editions.
It's curious
Re: Revolutions
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:14 pm
by melo
R.I.P. Oliviero Toscani (Photographer did Revolutions's Cover)