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Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:25 pm
by Pat Gleeson
shadow wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 11:26 pm
You're a gosh darn good fella! 🥰
You’re welcome 🙂

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:57 pm
by Jote
Pat Gleeson wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:22 pm That’s lots of Eon sounds there too 🙂
Not that familiar with EON.

There were supposed to be two parts of BFTF, did you crossfade between them? If so can you upload part 1 and 2 separately?

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:22 pm
by rinogurr
This evening at 10pm (French Time) on the Radio FMR internet streaming ( http://smeuh.org:8000/radio-fmr.mp3 ),lMirage, l'univers des musiques parallèles will play "Bridge from the Future Part 1" by Jean-Michel Jarre from the LP included in the collector Box "Live in Bratislava"
The following Thursday, it will broadcast Part 2

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Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 3:18 pm
by Richard-Eastham
Jote wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:57 pm
Pat Gleeson wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:22 pm That’s lots of Eon sounds there too 🙂
Not that familiar with EON.

There were supposed to be two parts of BFTF, did you crossfade between them? If so can you upload part 1 and 2 separately?
I don't have the EōN app as I don't have any Apple products - will it ever get an Andriod release? - but I have listened to Snapshots from EōN and the samples that were released for the remix competition. BFTF has a def sense of EōN but also is quite 'watery' as it has lots of Amazônia sounds.

Waiting for the Bratislava show to begin, there was lots of chatter, excitement and build up and I don't remember the watery sounds. The clicks, whirrs and mechanical elements are great though, and set it apart from WTC. And yes, there is a BFTF Pt 1 and BFTF Pt 2. I prefer Pt 2, as it appears to my (poor definition, low-res audio) ears to be a bit more melodic although both part are very similar and I suspect the Pt1/Pt2 is simply about making it fit onto a vinyl disc.

Around the time of the Bratislava show, I recall reading someplace that the pre-concert track (at that time called Blue Dot, I think) included sounds generated by astromical observations, cosmic signals and the like. But unless I've missed it, I can't see any reference to this in any of the pacakaging that comes with the vinyl or any of the other boxset sleeves or artwork.

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 2:20 pm
by Jote
I got my hands on a CD-rip today and immediately noticed (only checked Oxygene 2 so far) something odd. The crash/noise around 3:45 is much louder than in the broadcast version. Also, while the recording cuts around 16kHz (lossy stream compression) the crash/noise does NOT. It's almost as if it was added in post-production, which begs the question: "why"? Why focus on this particularly instead of improving the overall quality?

Spectrogram for reference - you can clearly see the high frequency cutoff, except for the crash.
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(It's not just this crash - throughout the track the fx triggered by JMJ seem louder. I distinctly remember praising the concert for having almost zero of them, yet here they are :P)

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:26 pm
by czt
Jote wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 2:20 pm Why focus on this particularly instead of improving the overall quality?
I had disgusted by this, when I first analyzed the spectrum of the (overcompressed) stereo master. I suspect (pointless) dadwater post-processing because of the "unlistenable" lossy source.

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 5:07 pm
by Jote
czt wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:26 pm I had disgusted by this, when I first analyzed the spectrum of the (overcompressed) stereo master. I suspect (pointless) dadwater post-processing because of the "unlistenable" lossy source.
Yeah, but this is not just post-processing. You can't hear those sounds in the broadcast. It looks like they were mixed in afterwards. So... why not mix in the prerecorded tracks in better quality if they were willing to actually work on the audio material by adding the fx?

That's not everything. In O2 you can hear Adiescar playing the violin near the end (around 6:43). Her part is NOT present in the broadcast. I have a hard time understanding what exactly happened there. Because it's either

1. a different (but still lossy) stream that has Adiescar parts. With FX added in the studio (because of the high frequencies on the FX that are otherwise not present in the stream as shown on the spectrogram)
2. same lossy stream with FX and Adiescar parts added in the studio.

Mind-boggling.

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 5:38 pm
by czt
Jote wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 5:07 pm Yeah, but this is not just post-processing. You can't hear those sounds in the broadcast. It looks like they were mixed in afterwards. So... why not mix in the prerecorded tracks in better quality if they were willing to actually work on the audio material by adding the fx?
Yes, exactly my questions too.
Jote wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 5:07 pm That's not everything. In O2 you can hear Adiescar playing the violin near the end (around 6:43). Her part is NOT present in the broadcast. I have a hard time understanding what exactly happened there. Because it's either

1. a different (but still lossy) stream that has Adiescar parts. With FX added in the studio (because of the high frequencies on the FX that are otherwise not present in the stream as shown on the spectrogram)
2. same lossy stream with FX and Adiescar parts added in the studio.
Good catch, bothered me too that is missing, and I suspect the 1st case.

So for me this "release" was a complete flop with the "single" and obviously remained so.

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 12:07 am
by Dr_Jones
Kanta wrote: Tue Sep 09, 2025 8:40 pm 09/09/2025 EP 135: Jean-Michel Jarre Synthetic Dreams Podcast
My guest this week is Jean-Michel Jarre, a true icon and pioneer of electronic musicWith a career spanning over 52 years in music, he is one of the most successful electronic artists ever, selling over 85 million albums and singles. Known for his large scale, elaborate live shows, Jarre has performed concerts at the Eiffel Tower, the Pyramids in Egypt and even the Sahara Desert. He’s also a UNESCO ambassador for education, science and culture and in 2017 was awarded the Stephen Hawking Medal for Science CommunicationWe discuss the making of his new album and concert film ‘Live in Bratislava - an audio-visual record of his historic open-air concert-event 'Bridge From The Future', performed on May 12, 2024 in Slovakia. A truly spectacular live event that features all that you’d expect from a Jean-Michel Jarre concert - elaborate sets, stunning visuals, fireworks and for the first time, a drone display For more information or to pre-order the album, visit: https://www.jeanmicheljarre.com/live-in ... aSynthetic Dreams is presented and produced by Scott ZverblisFollow Synthetic Dreams on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Synthetic Dreams on ⁠⁠⁠Threads⁠⁠⁠Follow Synthetic Dreams on ⁠⁠⁠Twitter / X⁠⁠⁠Synthetic Dreams title music by Chris Ibbott

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Just finished listening to this. He mentions a tour linked to Oxygene 50th anniversary, a new album for next year... The Uzbekistan concert is probably 14 november, since he says that the UNESCO conference there will be finished the day before his concert and that's 13 November. Working on the new album starts when he finished editing the Seville concert video.

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 12:03 pm
by Jote
Dr_Jones wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 6:34 pm Tbqh, it's not Nico's database anymore
Maybe it's time we got it a new name then? Maybe just "Zoolook DB"?

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 3:02 pm
by Pat Gleeson
Jote wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:57 pm
Pat Gleeson wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:22 pm That’s lots of Eon sounds there too 🙂
Not that familiar with EON.

There were supposed to be two parts of BFTF, did you crossfade between them? If so can you upload part 1 and 2 separately?
There's no crossfade and no music missing. The vinyl fades abruptly at the end of side one, and starts quickly at part two. The split is at 18:51 on the vinyl rip. Literally nothing is missed.

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 4:19 pm
by Jote
Pat Gleeson wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 3:02 pm
Jote wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:57 pm
Pat Gleeson wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:22 pm That’s lots of Eon sounds there too 🙂
Not that familiar with EON.

There were supposed to be two parts of BFTF, did you crossfade between them? If so can you upload part 1 and 2 separately?
There's no crossfade and no music missing. The vinyl fades abruptly at the end of side one, and starts quickly at part two. The split is at 18:51 on the vinyl rip. Literally nothing is missed.
Ok, thanks, that's good to know (in a sense that it's intact, in a sense that it fades abruptly on the vinyl - not so much...)

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 8:25 pm
by Herr Dunkel
Pat Gleeson wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 6:24 pm
Richard-Eastham wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:39 am Putting it out there ... like others, I'd really appreciate a vinyl rip of "Bridge From The Future" if anybody has a fancy turntable that can create MP3 files :D
I've just put it on the Nico's Database

/Music/Albums and Singles/2025 Bridge From The Future
Thank you! This is great!

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 12:50 pm
by Rompipompi
Vozdelosvientos wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:07 am
Rompipompi wrote: Tue Sep 09, 2025 8:15 pm
Finaero wrote: Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:01 pm I've admittedly listened to tracks like Web Spinner and Azimuth relatively little, so I can't really remember what they sound like off the top of my head - Herbalizer somewhat, but even when trying to recollect that one my mind first comes up with Paris Underground (possibly the grandfather to all these concert-only tracks of the recent 10 years) instead ;)
Digi-Sequencer 1993... is the first concert-only track (if we agree on the Concers in China tracks being studio tracks)
Âżcan we consider AOR as concert-only tracks?
Ha, good point, I´ve overlooked those. Maybe except for Blue which partly has been released on Planet Jarre...

Re: Jean-Michel Jarre - Live in Bratislava (2CD, Blu-ray, box set)

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:20 pm
by Dr_Jones
rinogurr wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:22 pm This evening at 10pm (French Time) on the Radio FMR internet streaming ( http://smeuh.org:8000/radio-fmr.mp3 ),lMirage, l'univers des musiques parallèles will play "Bridge from the Future Part 1" by Jean-Michel Jarre from the LP included in the collector Box "Live in Bratislava"
The following Thursday, it will broadcast Part 2

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You can now listen to it:
https://podcloud.fr/podcast/fmr-mirage/ ... va-box-set