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Oxygene 14-20


Post Posted Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:15 am
AFAN Alessandro Fantini


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Analog-Umph wrote: (As an aside, even JMJ himself admitted much later on after release, that Oxy 7-13, also needed more fine tuning, before it was released.)
Indeed, even if this third installment tries to recapture the enigmatic and aerial mood of the first one, doesn't quite get close to the level of refinement and organic craftmanship that every Jarre's album had until "Metamorphoses".
The minimalist attitude here seems to be the consequence of a rushed production more than an aware stylistic choice.
As some listeners have already pointed out, most of the tracks sounds like reshaped versions of "Electronica" out-takes ("Oxygene 14" could be the discarded draft of "The time machine", Oxygene 16 the first idea for the collaboration with Edgar Froese, "Oxygene 19" has been confirmed to be the first sketch for "Stardust" and Oxygene 20 probably was the early blueprint for the track with Hans Zimmer).

Nevertheless, if listened on repeat as a single track of 39:54 minutes, the album slowly gains a subtle, unspeakable appeal that directly nods to the virtually neverending suites of "Equinoxe" and "Chronologie", even without really deepening or adding anything new or original to the previous 2 Oxygene chapters (and I agree that Oxy 7-13, far superior to this new album, needed more tuning, specially on the drumming side as Jarre admitted in an interview of that era).
That basically explains why I gave a 7/10 on my own review on the webzine Ondarock.it
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Post Posted Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:36 am
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AFAN Alessandro Fantini wrote:"Oxygene 19" has been confirmed to be the first sketch for "Stardust"
Oh? Please elaborate on this?
Post Posted Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:07 am
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Dr_Jones wrote:
AFAN Alessandro Fantini wrote:
Analog-Umph wrote:"Oxygene 19" has been confirmed to be the first sketch for "Stardust"
Oh? Please elaborate on this?
I was referring to the Jarre's interviews mentioning the fact the first track proposed to van Buuren didn't work and the more recent ones (such as that one given to Elf) stating that "Oxygene 19" was the abandoned track for the "Electronica" project propelling the idea of a third Oxygene.
I think its strong trance vibe and its "incompleteness" confirm that's the first attempt at the collaboration with van Buuren.
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Post Posted Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:25 pm
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AFAN Alessandro Fantini wrote:most of the tracks sounds like reshaped versions of "Electronica" out-takes
Honestly, that doesn't make me like the album less. In fact, it makes me like it more. :mrgreen:
Post Posted Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:55 pm
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kubrick wrote:OMG, what a load of crap. Where you drunk when you wrote this?
Honest question. Are you just out to be a fucking arsehole or are you legit just one big arsehole?
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Post Posted Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:01 pm
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Josue143803 wrote:
AFAN Alessandro Fantini wrote:most of the tracks sounds like reshaped versions of "Electronica" out-takes
Honestly, that doesn't make me like the album less. In fact, it makes me like it more. :mrgreen:
Actually it wasn't a negative remark.
It was quite inevitable considering that the whole album has been composed right after the 5 years Electronica project.
Though the track I appreciate the most, "Oxygene 18", sounds like an excerpt from an ambient suite very distant from the Electronica mood.
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Post Posted Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:08 pm
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shadow wrote:
kubrick wrote:OMG, what a load of crap. Where you drunk when you wrote this?
Honest question. Are you just out to be a fucking arsehole or are you legit just one big arsehole?
You are number 6.
Post Posted Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:25 am
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Analog-Umph wrote:I know that many people find this an adequate album, but that may be because they do not listen much varying kinds of electronic music, or play themselves. When you listen to a lot of variety, you start to see where the quality lives. And when you play synths (or any musical instrument) yourself, you definitely become a scrutinizer of quality. These things go hand in hand.
I've listened to various styles of electronic in my musical discovery, and I'm still here thinking O3 works incredibly well in the way I perceive it (as well as in Jarre's intentions, whether you believe them or not). Even if I ever do mess around with various synths and other instruments, this album will still stand out in my mind.

Though I'll elaborate later, in basic terms, this album might become a favorite just due to how much emotion I can pull out of it, never minding the increased minimalism that can push it behind the first two for several.
Post Posted Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:39 pm
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I definitely think the album needs to be listened to as a whole in order for it to make sense properly. It is certainly a soundscape and I don't think the parts are so effective on their own (with the exception of Part 17 and maybe even 19), as they feel a little bit lost because they're not supported by the parts either side of it (a little like listening to one section of an act an opera on its own that is not the most well known!).

I think the demo-like feeling may be down to the limitation of only using 8-tracks in each section - electronic music these days have quite a fair few tracks in a session (sometimes 8 of the tracks are used up just for the beat section!!) although he has mentioned in various interviews that the album is meant to be minimalistic.

I also can't help but wonder that if there were more melodic sections on the album (with the exception of 17), whether there would be a more positive response to the album and not the divide which there is at the moment but that's just my humble opinion of course!! 8)
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Post Posted Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:20 am
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Goudeskitchen wrote: I also can't help but wonder that if there were more melodic sections on the album (with the exception of 17), whether there would be a more positive response to the album and not the divide which there is at the moment but that's just my humble opinion of course!! 8)
The immediate risk is that it would become electronica3 and ppl should still have a lot to complain about. ;)
Speaking of demo-like feeling I think it's remarkeble what he manage to accomplish in only six weeks.
I think it goes in pair with all of his other "demo'ish" albums after Rendez Vous.
It's a Jarre habit to make it sound experimental.
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Post Posted Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:49 pm
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It's great to read what people think of the O3 album ! We all perceive it differently.
À lot of explanation of JMJ intents with this album are given and it says a lot about the album : it doesn't stand from what one can listen to anywhere. We don't think it is a special album and it's easy to find other albums that we could easily tell other people we listen to. Too bad it would have been nice to have a truly different kind of electronic music from him. But he looks in good health so maybe next time ?
Post Posted Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:53 pm
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I listened to the original Oxygene the other day and the new album.
One album sounded fresh, atmospheric, advanced, futuristic.
That album was the one made 40 years the earlier.
Post Posted Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:03 pm
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Jeez, what a joyless bunch frequent this place at times ...
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Post Posted Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:21 pm
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Jean-Michel Jarre's own comments on each track:

Oxygene 14: I wanted to start with a hypnotic repetitive beat, with only one or two elements growing constantly until merging into the next part

Oxygene 15: is the most minimalist part based on a constant variation of one sound, the sound of the bass sequence, which is constantly on the edge of either being contained or exploding…

Oxygene 16 is more epic - based on a continuous bass line on which some melodic strings are developing and above all, lots of sound effects are constantly breaking the track until the darker ending maelstrom…

Oxygene 17 is the first bright moment of the album: I wanted to create a groove with the melodic part on its own and to also create the real feel of a spacey trip - which is what Oxygene is all about - and with minimalist drums. What made and makes Oxygene different, is probably that an important part of the sound is made of white noise creating a hazy atmosphere. It is ironic to think back in time when everybody was obsessed by improving the signal to noise ratio, that I used so much noise as part of my music…

Oxygene 18 is composed of 3 elements, evoking the weightlessness and stillness of space…

Oxygene 19 is the track that triggered the entire project - the sound of the melody is close to Oxygene 4. ‘Extreme Wave’ was the working title, as I had in mind a space-surfer, surfing on one gigantic organic wave…

Oxygene 20: I had the idea in mind to finish this entire 40 minute trip in an unknown vital space, with a track carrying no proper melody, but some harmonic layers, lost in the wind, evolving slowly in a kind of elevation and burning in the dust…
Post Posted Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:43 pm
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One of the drum loops from Oxygene 17 can be heard in the beginning







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