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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:32 pm
by Kanta
Connection between JM and Stephen Hawking:

Chronologie is the eleventh studio album by French electronic musician and composer Jean-Michel Jarre, and was released on Disques Dreyfus (with license to Polydor) in 1993. It is inspired by Stephen Hawking's book A Brief History of Time.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronologie

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:53 pm
by rinogurr
Kanta wrote:Connection between JM and Stephen Hawking:

Chronologie is the eleventh studio album by French electronic musician and composer Jean-Michel Jarre, and was released on Disques Dreyfus (with license to Polydor) in 1993. It is inspired by Stephen Hawking's book A Brief History of Time.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronologie
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:23 pm
by Kanta
rinogurr wrote:
Kanta wrote:Connection between JM and Stephen Hawking:

Chronologie is the eleventh studio album by French electronic musician and composer Jean-Michel Jarre, and was released on Disques Dreyfus (with license to Polydor) in 1993. It is inspired by Stephen Hawking's book A Brief History of Time.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronologie
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:24 pm
by Velodynamic
I've tried to make some TT-DR measuring from my Audacity .wav recorded Oxygéne 3 vinyl.
Bevare that my analogue connected phono tube amplifier might do some tricks with the dynamic range, so you might take it as a "best case" scenario. :wink:

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/123102

A side + B side

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http://www.filedropper.com/filemanager/ ... 708be990e1

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http://www.filedropper.com/filemanager/ ... 5fe1534daa

As I've said, it's not really the DR that's the problem.
It's a lot of scratching and popping noises. Although I've washed them thoroughly
they never seems to be perfectly clean.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:31 am
by Jote
Velodynamic wrote:I've tried to make some TT-DR measuring from my Audacity .wav recorded Oxygéne 3 vinyl.
Bevare that my analogue connented phono tube amplifier might do some tricks with the dynamic range, so you might take it as a "best case" scenario. :wink:

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/123102

A side + B side

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http://www.filedropper.com/filemanager/ ... 03%20B.wav
That link request a login/password

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:38 am
by Velodynamic
Jote wrote:
Velodynamic wrote:I've tried to make some TT-DR measuring from my Audacity .wav recorded Oxygéne 3 vinyl.
Bevare that my analogue connented phono tube amplifier might do some tricks with the dynamic range, so you might take it as a "best case" scenario. :wink:

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/123102

A side + B side

Image

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http://www.filedropper.com/filemanager/ ... 03%20B.wav
That link request a login/password
Does it work now then?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:47 am
by Dr_Jones
Velodynamic wrote:I've tried to make some TT-DR measuring from my Audacity .wav recorded Oxygéne 3 vinyl.
Bevare that my analogue connected phono tube amplifier might do some tricks with the dynamic range, so you might take it as a "best case" scenario. :wink:
You spelled Oxygéne wrong, it's Oxygène .. sorry
Velodynamic wrote:As I've said, it's not really the DR that's the problem.
It's a lot of scratching and popping noises. Although I've washed them thoroughly
they never seems to be perfectly clean.
I'll tell you a secret: that's why vinyl was replaced by CDs in the 80s...

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:14 pm
by shadow
Velodynamic wrote:It's a lot of scratching and popping noises. Although I've washed them thoroughly they never seems to be perfectly clean.
I got a rip from Finaero which was really good. Has a bunch of clicks and pops throughout but nothing serious. Spend a couple of hours cleaning his rip up and it sounds really good. I think I got pretty much all of them and most haven't figured that it's a vinyl rip who have heard it.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:47 pm
by Velodynamic
Dr_Jones wrote:
Velodynamic wrote:I've tried to make some TT-DR measuring from my Audacity .wav recorded Oxygéne 3 vinyl.
Bevare that my analogue connected phono tube amplifier might do some tricks with the dynamic range, so you might take it as a "best case" scenario. :wink:
You spelled Oxygéne wrong, it's Oxygène .. sorry
Hah. Thanx Doc -corrected. :fine:
Dr_Jones wrote: I'll tell you a secret: that's why vinyl was replaced by CDs in the 80s...
Absolutely. I have a bunch of vinyl's from the 80's that doesn't have such loud "pops" although a bit of scrunch is totally fine by me. I think maybe I should order a second stand alone vinyl of Oxy 3, just in case this is just a coincident with my copy.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:31 pm
by Finaero
I like those pops and sniffs so much I have them all over the place in my digitally rendered tracks.

(Okay, that's just bad mixing, but still better than the Dad Waterman remasters. High-five!)

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:59 pm
by Dr_Jones
Finaero wrote:I like those pops and sniffs so much I have them all over the place in my digitally rendered tracks.
I hate them ever since I bought FGTH's Two Tribes 12". I can still hear the record skip in my mind when I listen to the 1989 CD single re-release.

That's no way to listen to music.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:30 pm
by 1906
What kind of turntables and cartridges are you using?

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:24 pm
by Dr_Jones
Back in 1984? Several ones.

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:33 pm
by Velodynamic
Now I think...maybe I should've bought this from the beginning instead of that crazy Trilogy box.
DEAMN this looks good. No black spots and sounds cleaner to. :smoke:
It's unfortunate you have to eat tin can sound mixing no matter how you choose to listen to the album.
Or in Oldfieldian; "brick wall squashing"

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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:14 am
by HunterTech
Dr_Jones wrote:I'll tell you a secret: that's why vinyl was replaced by CDs in the 80s...
I'll tell you another secret: vinyl doesn't have the same mastering issues that CD can, meaning it'll end up sounding better automatically if your digital master is brickwalled to hell.

Seriously, if CDs today were mastered like the early West Germany pressings of JMJ's stuff, then I don't think the vinyl resurgence would've been more than a novelty. Still, I think there is an authentic appeal to the sound, even with all its flaws. So I wouldn't be that dismissive of the format. Just quality of your record pressings and turntables.
Velodynamic wrote:It's unfortunate you have to eat tin can sound mixing no matter how you choose to listen to the album.
Or in Oldfieldian; "brick wall squashing"]
Maybe it's the fancy vinyl rips I've listening to, but I still think there is more life to it on vinyl still with the way it's mastered. Anything is better than the CD really.