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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:42 pm
by Nico_Noyau
The only thing that make me wonder about if this is a CS60 or CS80 was that JMJ seems to use the Doepfer ribbon controller instead of the synth ribbon controller, and moreover I couldn't see the synth's ribbon controller !!

About the vocoder, I wonder aswell why he used one... but maybe this is not a vocoder, as when they play Oxygène 4, just before beginning, they told alltogether : "un, deux, trois, quatre", and then, baoum, Oxygène 4 :P
Maybe they used a mic to speak together ?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:57 pm
by Jakob BC
Probably and as Claude is doing some of the arrangement stuff, he use it to communicate. The VP has a stringsection also that he maybe used.

Anyway here is my main argumentation for saying it's a CS-80 and not a 60.
At the first sight you can see it on the cooling units above all the paramteres. It has a horizontal surface on the 80 which is not on the 60. From the concert pictures you can see this horizontal surface.

CS-80:
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CS-60:
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:05 pm
by AnDrOiD
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:09 pm
by Jakob BC
AnDrOiD wrote:Image
Can you see the difference? :wink: if that's the case you should be able to compare it to the pictures of the Marigny concerts and see which one it is. And there you go... my point with all this :wink:

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:14 pm
by AnDrOiD
I can see the CS-80 has two top rows of sliders. :P :mrgreen:

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:01 am
by Nico_Noyau
According to JarreUK, the synths used in Marigny were :

Jean Michel Jarre

MEMORY MOOG
EMS AKS
EMS VCS3
RMI HARMONIC SYNTHESIZER
GEISS DIGISEQUENCER
ARP 2600
EMINENT 310
MOOG LIBERATION
THEREMIN
RIBBON CONTROLLER DOEPFER
SMALL STONE PEDAL
ELECTRIC MISTRESS PEDAL
OBERHEIM TVPS (TWO VOICES POLYPHONIC SYNTHESIZER)
OSCAR
ROLAND JUPITER 4

Francis Rimbert

EMINENT 310
ROLAND JUPITER 8
MINI MOOG
MODULAR ARP 2500
KORG POLYPHONIC SYNTHESIZER PS-3010
SMALL STONE PEDAL
OSCAR

Claude Samard

EMINENT 310
MINI MOOG
MOOG TAURUS
EMS AKS
ARP 2600
MOOG LITTLE PHATTY
SMALL STONE PEDAL
MINIPOP 7 DRUM MACHINE
ROLAND VOCODER PLUS

Dominique Perrier

EMINENT 310
MELLOTRON MK II
MODULAR MOOG 55
ARP ODYSSEY
MOOG VOYAGER
SMALL STONE PEDAL
ELECTRIC MISTRESS PEDAL



No CS80 for JMJ...

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:56 am
by JeromeTV
Seems that gear list on JarreUK was taken from the the program flyer, and there is also no mention of the CS80 there eigther, not even the OSCar.
But there was definitely an CS80 on stage, next to the Eminent 310 and the OSCar on top of the CS80. And I think the Dopfler Ribbon controller is connected to the CS80. replacing the internal ribbon controller from the CS80. 8)

hejhej

Jerome.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:02 am
by Nico_Noyau
The OSCars are in the lists ;)
But for the ribbon, I really duno where it is connected...

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:12 am
by JeromeTV
Nico_Noyau wrote:The OSCars are in the lists ;)
I read that, but the OSCar's and the CS80 are not mentioned in program.
The program lists the Alfacam studio recording setup. 8)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:40 pm
by Nico_Noyau
Oh yeah, sorry, you were right, I didn't read properly ;)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:08 pm
by Jakob BC
Yes that seems to be right. "Vocoder Plus" = VP-330, the one I had most problems figuring out. I quite like the pics JarreUK have got. I wonder if Duncan has more of those closeup synthpics, but I wasn't able to find a way to contact him directly.
The Linn LM-1 is also missing on the list. They also listed the PS-3200 as 3010, however that is just the keyboardcontroller for the PS synths :wink: Anyway we know what they mean.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:37 pm
by Jakob BC
As Nico just reminded me about this unknown box, I want to know now what it is :P

This black box which is connected to the 2500:

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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:43 pm
by Pete
Jakob BC wrote:As Nico just reminded me about this unknown box, I want to know now what it is :P

This black box which is connected to the 2500:

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Hi guys,
the black box is one of the earliest MIDI/CV converters, and it's called Roland MPU-101.

It makes possible to play up to 4 pre-MIDI devices from a MIDI Keyboard. The ARP, like other oldschool monophonic synthesizers, could be played by a keyboard or a hardware sequencer equipped with CV/Gate outputs.

In this case I suppose the ARP 2500 is connected to the M-Audio Keystation 88es with the Roland MPU-101.

Cheers


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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:55 pm
by Jakob BC
Hmm yes I never really thought about how the Keystation was connected to the ARP, so this is the answer. Thanks Pete :)

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:48 pm
by GeeJee
Just like it was suggested before, Claude used the microphone to give instructions, as he was the musical director of the project.

I think the VP330 was just being a sheet music stand for Claude :mrgreen:

As for the ribbon - I think it was connected to the Memorymoog, but that's just a guess.

And - why they have 2 minipops on stage? Perhaps one was led trough a Smallstone and the other was kept dry?