We all agree that the "Concerts in China" CD is a studio album, right?
Does anyone then know, why there is a cut in Equinoxe VII at 4:42 ??
I've always thought is was a very critical error or power failure that was edited out, but it shouldn't be necessary if it was a studio album ?
Also one other thing makes me wonder. The bass in 100% the as on the record, so I don't believe this was played again, but it is much much more bright/less filtered. Could this be the original bass sound, that was EQ'ed og filtered even more on the Equinoxe Album?
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:03 pm
by Velodynamic
A mixed part studio and part live album I would suggest.
I don't remember the cut and bass you've observed so I have to give it another spin I think.
Btw is the LP vs CD version the same here do you know?
edit/ Haha I'm not sure if it's a "cut" there. I think it sounds more like JMJ's bad timing while playing is shining through there.
However the case I agree. It would be almost impossible to just let go of a thing like that during a normal studio session.
Another thing is to fake the echoes, delays and overall room atmosphere from drums and stuff like that. Remember it's 1982.
Even if surround sounding techniqe already existed it would be one heck of a job to make it sound that realistic.
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:53 pm
by Glco8284
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:03 pm
by La Cage
Glco8284 wrote:
Bad example. That's my LP but the audio is from the CD
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:56 pm
by Velodynamic
My last offer: PLAYBACK! Some added instruments up until the cut and then it sounds just like the original studioalbum track yet with the arena characteristics in the sound.
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:48 pm
by thhedk
Velodynamic wrote:
edit/ Haha I'm not sure if it's a "cut" there. I think it sounds more like JMJ's bad timing while playing is shining through there.
The whole music cuts too, so it's not just his usual playing-fail
Velodynamic wrote:
However the case I agree. It would be almost impossible to just let go of a thing like that during a normal studio session.
Another thing is to fake the echoes, delays and overall room atmosphere from drums and stuff like that. Remember it's 1982.
Even if surround sounding techniqe already existed it would be one heck of a job to make it sound that realistic.
My problem is, if you hear those few released real audio clips from the concert, you can hear it is much different from the record. EQ7 is 100% like the record, and therefor 99% playback as we know, and the fail should not accur.
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:49 pm
by thhedk
Velodynamic wrote:
My last offer: PLAYBACK! Some added instruments up until the cut and then it sounds just like the original studioalbum track yet with the arena characteristics in the sound.
I think it sound the same.
The first clip though, is mixed so the whole refreing with the error is taken out.
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:52 pm
by Velodynamic
You are right the first clip doesn't really show the cut but it shows JMJ playing something totally different towards the end of the track
then what you hear on the album CiC or the Equinoxe albums for that matter.
Possibly made exlusively for the video, or was it "the real" live recording?
It's hard to know "what is what" and maybe that was the whole idea by mr Dreyfuzz?
I did read a while back saying that the Concerts In China album was recorded entirley in a studio in Paris shortly after the tour, problems with power drop outs in China, JMJ not too happy with overall sound quality. Have a look at this clip... i suggest that while JMJ was re-recording the China Album he also created the Magnetic Fields 4 promo clip too.
You can make out Frederick Rousseau in the background and clearly Roger Rizziteli on drums.
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:57 am
by thhedk
shadow wrote: so I assume it's part of the mastertape where the problem lies in
But the mastertape didn't fail when he played EQ7 in all the following concerts from 1981-2012
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:23 pm
by shadow
I'm not talking about the mastertape of the Equinoxe album, I'm talking about the mastertape that was made for this album. I think somewhere the mastertape for this album just got cut for some reason or maybe was damaged and nobody ever bothered to fix it or no one noticed it over in France
chronos wrote:I did read a while back saying that the Concerts In China album was recorded entirley in a studio in Paris shortly after the tour, problems with power drop outs in China, JMJ not too happy with overall sound quality. Have a look at this clip... i suggest that while JMJ was re-recording the China Album he also created the Magnetic Fields 4 promo clip too.
To bad, would love to hear the actual full concert, it has been recorded that we know. But if the recordings are still in Jarre's fault or even in good enough condition to be transferd into the digital realm, that's sadly a mistery
