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[Kanta]

Jean-Michel Jarre's rant against Spotify and artificial intelligence

Jean-Michel Jarre accused the Spotify music streaming platform of wanting to "do without artists" by sliding songs created with artificial intelligence into the application's playlists.
French musician Jean-Michel Jarre accused the Spotify platform on Saturday of wanting to "do without artists" by seeking to dilute their songs among songs made by artificial intelligence.
The Oxygene composer spoke at a round table at the National Library of France (BnF), prior to the Summit for Action on Artificial Intelligence, Monday and Tuesday in Paris. "Safitify's dream would be to do without artists. It's been a while since it's been brewing. Spotify is a bit of the Darth Vader of music, "he accused.
"Fake artists" in Spotify playlists
He was reacting to remarks about the arrival on streaming platforms of fake songs and noises generated by artificial intelligence, increasing in number. According to an American journalist, Liz Pelly, who published an investigative book on Spotify in January, the Swedish streaming giant thus places "fake artists" in some of its ambient music playlists.
"We have always been committed to supporting the growth and development of artists on our platform, with more tools, transparency, data and new channels to retain their audiences," said a Spotify spokesperson. "We are therefore proud of the distance traveled and remain fiercely committed to the discovery and growth of the recorded music industry," he added, recalling the $10 billion donated to rightholders in 2024 alone.
The complex issue of copyright
Jean-Michel Jarre was also very offensive during the debate on the protection of copyright in the face of the use of works to train artificial intelligence tools. "We will not be able to approach the problem of rights with AI as we did with Gafam," he said. "We'll have to invent something. [...] There is a cake, even before these companies make profits, which is their valuation. And culture must touch a share of it."
“Our friends in this room," he said, looking at the AI entrepreneurs, "have understood that we are very well armed, with our gang, not to fight, but to be paid." He referred, as allies, to other participants in the round table, leaders of French organizations for the collective management of copyrights, Sacem for music and SACD for live entertainment. But Jean-Michel Jarre stressed that he himself used artificial intelligence to compose. "I fed the algorithm with my own music," he said.

Source: https://www.vosgesmatin.fr/culture-lois ... tificielle

[Kanta]

Artificial intelligence: "We must not be afraid of it" and "it is a completely extraordinary opportunity", considers Jean-Michel Jarre
"We must establish a number of rules, especially in terms of intellectual property and rights," adds the songwriter, however, invited on Sunday on franceinfo, while the World Summit on AI is being held in Paris.

Source: https://www.francetvinfo.fr/internet/in ... 64765.html

[Mr_Mooncat]

Its interesting how when its his field, suddenly the use of genAI matters.
What about all the visual artists like myself, that now have to take steps to try to prevent our work being stolen and fed into these plagiarism machines. Which then spew out slop that competes against our own work??

For the Bratislava concert images, JMJ used stable diffusion, a genAI system that has been trained on copyrighted works without the artists permission.
It's all very hypocritical in my view.

I laughed when I read that bit where he says he fed his own stuff into it to help him compose.
Jean-Michel, that's what your brain is for.
As someone once said, pop will eat itself.

[Kanta]

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[Robi83]

Its interesting how when its his field, suddenly the use of genAI matters.
What about all the visual artists like myself, that now have to take steps to try to prevent our work being stolen and fed into these plagiarism machines. Which then spew out slop that competes against our own work??

For the Bratislava concert images, JMJ used stable diffusion, a genAI system that has been trained on copyrighted works without the artists permission.
It's all very hypocritical in my view.

I laughed when I read that bit where he says he fed his own stuff into it to help him compose.
Jean-Michel, that's what your brain is for.
As someone once said, pop will eat itself.

Agree with you.

....fed his own stuff to compose "... Why not having partners in studio, to talk with people.....?

This AI shit is getting flooding his brain....

[1906]

Gen Z people are calling it boomer art

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/comments/1dkx2na/kids_are_calling_ai_art_boomer_art_now/

[Finaero]

Fake AI artists on Spotify be bad, real plagiarists stealing his tracks can be ignored

[Dr_Jones]

Maybe that's an AI too

[Richard-Eastham]

Its interesting how when its his field, suddenly the use of genAI matters.
What about all the visual artists like myself, that now have to take steps to try to prevent our work being stolen and fed into these plagiarism machines. Which then spew out slop that competes against our own work??

For the Bratislava concert images, JMJ used stable diffusion, a genAI system that has been trained on copyrighted works without the artists permission.
It's all very hypocritical in my view.

I laughed when I read that bit where he says he fed his own stuff into it to help him compose.
Jean-Michel, that's what your brain is for.
As someone once said, pop will eat itself.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... -cancelled

Thousands of artists are urging the auction house Christie’s to cancel a sale of art created with artificial intelligence, claiming the technology behind the works is committing “mass theft”.

The Augmented Intelligence auction has been described by Christie’s as the first AI-dedicated sale by a major auctioneer and features 20 lots with prices ranging from $10,000 to $250,000 for works by artists including Refik Andanol and the late AI art pioneer Harold Cohen.

A lettter calling for the auction to be scrapped has received 3,000 signatures, including from Karla Ortiz and Kelly McKernan, who are suing AI companies over claims that the firms’ image generation tools have used their work without permission.

The letter says: “Many of the artworks you plan to auction were created using AI models that are known to be trained on copyrighted work without a licence. These models, and the companies behind them, exploit human artists, using their work without permission or payment to build commercial AI products that compete with them.”

[Richard-Eastham]

The use of copyrighted work to train AI models – the technology that underpins chatbots and image generation tools such as Stable Diffusion and Midjourney – has become a battleground between creatives and tech companies, with artists, authors, publishers and music labels launching a series of lawsuits alleging breach of copyright.

It appears that Stable Diffusion is subject to legal action.

[shadow]

So defending AI was fine and dandy till now... Well, well, well... How the chickens come home to roost...

[Omerglover]

i gave up spotify premium apk todo desbloqueado, Now that they are teaming up with AI to disrupt the music market, a lot of people are upset with them.