Blah Blah Cafe, the Jean-Michel Jarre forum

It is fairly easy to get on BluRay, but it's French release with no English subtitles so I would struggle a bit!

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I couldn't care less about multi channel surround sound and stuffs like that right now because I've just moved from apartment to a house with kitchen/living room "all in one L-shape" solution so I haven't figured out where to put surround speakers. I just have front speakers + center + sub and ...

Dr_Jones wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:15 pm
Listening to the 5.1 mix now (technically it's 5.0, because one channel is empty).

Yes I noticed it was only 5.0 too! (I imported the "5.1" WAV into my audio editor to convert it to flac, and saw that the subwoofer channel was empty".
Is this a special Dadwater mastering error?

I have been enjoying listening to this over past 24 hours.
One thing I noticed today with the 5.1 WAV download that comes with the CD: the LFE (low frequency effects) channel (i.e. the "1" of the 5.1) is empty, no signal on it. (I noticed this when I opened it in my audio editor, because I wanted ...

Again, I agree. The problem is that the so called 'loudness war' has meant mastering has become so loud that vinyl - with all the limitations you have outlined quite correctly - have to use quieter masters than the superior digital formats. .

This isn't always the case though. This month's ...

.. and if the mastering engineer is a total dick ?
My point precisely.

Yeah, and Dadwater does definately seem to be a dick!
The more I listen to Oxygene 3 (ripped from the CD to lossless FLAC, mostly listening on a Sony Walkman with nice MDR-1000 headphones :) ) the most I really do not like ...

if the mastering engineer isn't a total dick.

Which is why vinyl will continue to prevail in sales. Because the mastering engineer continues to remain a dick on digital media.

With the ReplayGain gaining (sic) popularity this might change? I hope so...

By "ReplayGain" I think you're alluding ...

Dr_Jones wrote:THANK YOU very much for these articles.

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HunterTech wrote:

feline1973 wrote:if the mastering engineer isn't a total dick.

Which is why vinyl will continue to prevail in sales. Because the mastering engineer continues to remain a dick on digital media.

Hahah well there is that .

So what about this "better" vinyl master, is it digital from the beginning before it becomes a vinyl record? How come we don't have direct access to download that one instead of the brick wall squashed shite?
In my world of thoughts it would've been much easier that way and saved the production one ...

Vinyl sounds better than CD / digital precisely because it can't be brick walled to the same extent - the damn stylus would skip off the platter. It's better by default. ...

that's a very odd way to think about it :lol:

The ideal delivery medium is transparent and has perfect fidelity to the ...

(double post!)

Basically it looks to me like I wasted my money buying the "trilogy" 3CD set - I could've just bought the CD of Oxygene 3 for half the price. The two Dadwater remasters are audibly worse than the masters I already owned.
Oh well worse things happen at sea...

I think that's extremely unlikely in the case of Oxygene 7–13 ... it's only from 1997 and any digital audio format from then is still easily supported today.

With early 80s digital tape formats (or indeed experimental 1970s ones), where you had a few pioneering manufacturers (3M, Mitsubishi, Sony ...

Hmm, and on a cursorary listen I have much the same inital opinion on the original Oxygene 7–13 compared to the 2016 remaster: the tracks do not need to be any "louder", and pimping the audio in this way just, to my ear, removes bottom end and replaces it with a more hectoring tinny top end, where ...