Blah Blah Cafe, the Jean-Michel Jarre forum

[GeeJee]

Are you sick of how JMJ's former record company DREYFUS treats Jean Michel and his fans? Not just the recent Youtube battle, also the whole cash-in on JM's success and the way DREYFUS keeps JMJ from re-releasing any old material like concert tapes etc...! You're free to have your own opinion, but it's pretty clear DREYFUS doesn't help us. All DREYFUS' got is big dollar signs in his eyes and it's quite clear DREYFUS dislikes JMJ and his fans. Want to take action?

Here's how:

Create a youtube account and contact any of the mods or admins with your name and name of your youtube account. (of course existing accounts may be submitted also)

Next steps will be revealed later on. Nico and I are working on it.
Don't worry, although any details are kept secret at this point, that's more because it's a bad prank rather than something illegal or copyright infringing. Stay tuned!

What? Again? That's twice.

You see if Jean Michel says it's okay then it should be okay. Fans should not be in the middle of what is going on.

I've now given up uploading my covers on there.
I feel like writing to MySpace & giving them the link to that video where JMJ gives his permission.
Even though JMJ has given us permission,it's still going on & I can't beleive that,is it that FDM are trying to get to JMJ for saying that & in the process upsetting his fans?
Might upload my covers onto You Tube anyway & see what happens.
Don't care if my account gets deleted,I'll just set up another one.

Wait, I have an idea. That will screw Dreyfus and his company quite a bit

[Nico_Noyau]

Yeapz, correct, can't say better

[Dominc]

Let's Hope this plan of yours works GeeJee

[GeeJee]

It surely does!

*rubs hands*

[Abi]

rickrolling???

[jarrekid]

rickrolling???

hahahahahaha

[Jon]

"spank-o-prank", like it

[Antigoon]

Next steps will be revealed later on. Nico and I are working on it.

I'll wait for more info then before I decide if I join (or not) I kinda wanna no wot U up to b4 I attach mi name...



So far Dreyfus did nothing to our stuff uploaded there, probably because we got permision from them/jarre years ago to do this... (just don't know if they also remember so I'll keep checking it from time to time)


As a sidenote... AFAIK dreyfus doesn't own the copyrights of live video's anyway, they are not the PPL who prevent them from being released on DVD. After 1990 all the videorights of the concert were sold to various parties such as RTBF for Eic, 12Dots to M6, DR2 for AERO (concert) and MatchTV for acropolis. THEY are the ones who have the rights to release it on DVD...

JMJ sold the rights to those companies to raise funds for the events he created and thus Dreyfus has nothing to do with that...

Just so we are clear on things...

[Jon]

(thanks to: Valentine75)

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How do I file a counter notice (International complaints*)?

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Elements of Counter Notification

To expedite our ability to process your counter notification, please use the following format (including section numbers):

Identify the specific URLs of material that YouTube has removed or to which YouTube has disabled access.
Provide your full name, address, telephone number, email address and the username of your YouTube account.
Provide a statement that you will accept service of process from the person who provided YouTube with the original copyright complaint or an authorised agent of such person.
Include the following statement: "I have a good faith belief that the material was removed or disabled as a result of a mistake or misidentification of the material to be removed or disabled."
Sign the notice. If you are providing notice by email, a scanned physical signature or a valid electronic signature will be accepted.
Send the written communication to the following address:

Attn: YouTube Copyright Counter Notification
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or fax to:
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or email to:
ukcopyright@youtube.com, Subject: YouTube Copyright Counter Notification

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[Antigoon]

here's the reason why you SHOULDN'T do a counterclaim...

After we receive your counter notification, we will forward it to the party who submitted the original claim of copyright infringement. Please note that when we forward the counter notification, it includes your personal information. By submitting a counter notification, you consent to having your information revealed in this way.

To put it in other words, you're getting sued when you reveal your identity, and even though you MIGHT win a court case (unlikely) you still have to pay a big lawyer bill...

The only one who can do this is JMJ himself, just so you know and don't try something STUPID...

[Kanta]

Yep, maybe you are right Antigoon. But it sure sucks having all these Oxygene Tour 2008 concert footage and Oxygene covers removed.

[GeeJee]

To put it in other words, you're getting sued when you reveal your identity, and even though you MIGHT win a court case (unlikely) you still have to pay a big lawyer bill...

The only one who can do this is JMJ himself, just so you know and don't try something STUPID...

All you do is speculate. And to be honest, that just made you look pretty stupid.

[GeeJee]

I'm not particularly fond of the tone of a few members in this thread, and since the plan to take action against Dreyfus was abandoned, I'd better lock things here.