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Deserted Palace - 02/05/2025


Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:11 pm
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Dr_Jones wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:56 pm
Dr_Jones wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:07 am Image
Back of the sleeve also mentions Iraqi Hitch-Miker as side B, track 3 though :-D...
Hitch-Miker is the remix, once the Hitch-Hiker has introduced himself and the driver knows his name
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Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:18 pm
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Jarrepeggiator wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:06 pm
Robi83 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:21 am What a cool would be if an updated Bridge of Promises gets played on a tour!

Oh dream on, just dream on. Instead? Web Spinner. :(
I think he could remix one of the Deserted Palace track to sound more modern for a 21st century audience.
I agree and when Essentials & Rarities was released in 2011, it included the two fab RMX remixes of La Cage and Erosmachine. It is a shame that he's missed obvious opportunity for modern takes and fresh thinking this time around.

But in another way, I think he's already done this. I see Oxymore as a modern day Deserted Palace. A series of noisy, percussive, spikey, stand-alone tracks, not a suite of melodic, flowing tracks all under one concept. No Part 1, 2, 3 etc but individual track titles that are unusual and intriguing, esp. for lyric-free instrumental music.
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Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:23 pm
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I think there's still reason to suspect this may have been remastered from vinyl. Spectrogram analysis (from Bandcamp via soundcard so not the best quality, still ok for this purpose though) shows slight warbling during Windswept Canyon.
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Highlighted section is one pitch warp from trough to trough. It's around 1.8 seconds, aka the time it takes for 1 revolution to occur on vinyl at 33 rpm.

Waveform sowed no obvious signs of it being from vinyl right away, such as low frequency rumble, which is why I didn't notice at first.
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Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:40 pm
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Richard-Eastham wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:18 pm
Jarrepeggiator wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:06 pm
Robi83 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:21 am What a cool would be if an updated Bridge of Promises gets played on a tour!

Oh dream on, just dream on. Instead? Web Spinner. :(
I think he could remix one of the Deserted Palace track to sound more modern for a 21st century audience.
I agree and when Essentials & Rarities was released in 2011, it included the two fab RMX remixes of La Cage and Erosmachine. It is a shame that he's missed obvious opportunity for modern takes and fresh thinking this time around.

But in another way, I think he's already done this. I see Oxymore as a modern day Deserted Palace. A series of noisy, percussive, spikey, stand-alone tracks, not a suite of melodic, flowing tracks all under one concept. No Part 1, 2, 3 etc but individual track titles that are unusual and intriguing, esp. for lyric-free instrumental music.
He had serious personal issues at that time, his mother passed away and he divorced again, which was too much for him at the time, he could not do any creative work, so he just did tours with old material instead.

I think Oxymore has a darker, more industrial sound, it's closer to Happiness is a sad song, La Cage, Erosmachine than the likes of Bridge of Promises, Poltergeist Party or Windswept Canyon, but I understand what you mean.
Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:59 pm
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This is truly fantastic news, considering the care taken by this record company.
After 'Les Granges Brûlées,' I hope this is the beginning of a long list of releases like Aor, MFS... let's dream.
Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:50 pm
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Good news....great realease

bad news...no edtion in CD :-(
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Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:50 pm
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Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:12 pm
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I guess the fadeout to Bridge of Promises / Blackbird has been "reintroduced" - in the 2011 E&R release you could hear the audio peaking/breaking at that part - which didn't really bother me that much and it provided a few new extra seconds after all ;)
Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:25 pm
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Symphony Hall, Birmingham - 2008
RAH, London - 2008
Wembley Arena, London - 2009
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Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:36 pm
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Quants0 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:23 pm I think there's still reason to suspect this may have been remastered from vinyl. Spectrogram analysis (from Bandcamp via soundcard so not the best quality, still ok for this purpose though) shows slight warbling during Windswept Canyon.

Screenshot 2025-03-26 081734.png
Highlighted section is one pitch warp from trough to trough. It's around 1.8 seconds, aka the time it takes for 1 revolution to occur on vinyl at 33 rpm.

Waveform sowed no obvious signs of it being from vinyl right away, such as low frequency rumble, which is why I didn't notice at first.
Yeah, that's why I think they call it "audio restored" on the release page.

Oh, and obligatory "I want it on CD too" post.
Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:48 pm
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nexxxus wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:59 pm This is truly fantastic news, considering the care taken by this record company.
After 'Les Granges Brûlées,' I hope this is the beginning of a long list of releases like Aor, MFS... let's dream.
MFS should NEVER get a release.... it would ruin the whole point of that project! :D But agree about AOR and other materials, although I am most interested not in pre-Oxygene materials but in "unreleased and extras" from 1990 - 2000. I am curious as to what didn't make the final versions of Cousteau, Chronologie, Oxygene 7-13 and Métamorphoses. Assuming, that it, the outakes, demos etc were actually kept and not destroyed in the creative process.
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Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:57 pm
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It seems that the album was going to have a bonus track, but they gave up at the last minute. The B-side has six tracks, but the credits list an eighth track from 1973. The album was released in 1972.
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Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:27 pm
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Richard-Eastham wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:48 pm
nexxxus wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:59 pm This is truly fantastic news, considering the care taken by this record company.
After 'Les Granges Brûlées,' I hope this is the beginning of a long list of releases like Aor, MFS... let's dream.
MFS should NEVER get a release.... it would ruin the whole point of that project! :D But agree about AOR and other materials, although I am most interested not in pre-Oxygene materials but in "unreleased and extras" from 1990 - 2000. I am curious as to what didn't make the final versions of Cousteau, Chronologie, Oxygene 7-13 and Métamorphoses. Assuming, that it, the outakes, demos etc were actually kept and not destroyed in the creative process.
For Metamorphoses, he did a C'est la Vie part 2, he did Crazy Saturday, which he later reused for Printemps de Bourges and also a track called Lonely beat, which was apparently a Massive Attack style trip hop song.
Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:03 pm
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rinogurr wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:57 pm It seems that the album was going to have a bonus track, but they gave up at the last minute. The B-side has six tracks, but the credits list an eighth track from 1973. The album was released in 1972.
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Good spot. Also, Face A Track 4 (A Loue Theme For Gargoyles) is not credited to J.M. Jarre for some reason. Just another clumsy mistake and a typo, like Hitch-Miker?
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Post Posted Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:04 pm
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rinogurr wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:57 pm It seems that the album was going to have a bonus track, but they gave up at the last minute. The B-side has six tracks, but the credits list an eighth track from 1973. The album was released in 1972.
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oh, nice detail.
I hope the back of the sleeve is not final then. I hope they fix the typos like the one I mentioned before and also "Loue theme for gargoyles" (with no writing credit to JM Jarre).







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