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Tour 2025


Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:20 am
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Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:24 am Curious about stage dimension tonight in the arena...
First indoors show tonight? It will be much darker than those light Scandinavian summer nights. The lights, lasers and effects - already impressive - could look even better tonight.
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Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:30 am
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Richard-Eastham wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:16 am I don't doubt your assessment on this and yet he wears those camera specs during O2 on this tour, showing his hands playing throughout the track. He hasn't done that previously for this track, I think before during the Electronica tour, it was for O8. A brave move?
That's precisely why he wears them: because he plays the intro and the outro. As for the main theme - nobody can tell what notes he's actually hitting as it's quite fast, also the camera has a slight lag and motion blur. It's just a matter of hitting the keys fast according to the tempo (all notes have equal length so it's very mechanical) and that's it.
Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:40 am
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Jote wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:30 am
Richard-Eastham wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:16 am I don't doubt your assessment on this and yet he wears those camera specs during O2 on this tour, showing his hands playing throughout the track. He hasn't done that previously for this track, I think before during the Electronica tour, it was for O8. A brave move?
That's precisely why he wears them: because he plays the intro and the outro. As for the main theme - nobody can tell what notes he's actually hitting as it's quite fast, also the camera has a slight lag and motion blur. It's just a matter of hitting the keys fast according to the tempo (all notes have equal length so it's very mechanical) and that's it.
If so....
....he just kind of shy and does fear hitting one note incorrectly I think.
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Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:57 am
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Does anyone know if JMJ met with fans after his shows in Oslo and Helsinki?
Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:18 pm
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Xyxophas wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:57 am Does anyone know if JMJ met with fans after his shows in Oslo and Helsinki?
I tried to keep my eyes open for any Meet & Greet sessions in Helsinki, but I didn't see any. I guess he met some people privately, like the guy from Genelec (picture posted in this thread earlier).
Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:50 pm
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Jote wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:05 am Chords? No, there are no new chords in MF1.


I mean those new notes or chords at exacly 2:02 and 3:58
Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:53 pm
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Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:40 am If so....
....he just kind of shy and does fear hitting one note incorrectly I think.
Yeah no, there would be more than "one", given how he is playing the outro. It genuinely sounds like someone trying to play it from memory after hearing it twice. As a musician he HAS TO know how bad it and unprofessional sounds. The whole "shy and fear hitting wrong notes" argument falls apart here. Why does he do it and why he can't learn to play that outro properly is beyond my comprehension.
I mean those new notes or chords at exacly 2:02 and 3:58
Ah, ok, this new sequence. I have mixed feelings about it. But I don't mind the sub-bass drops though!
Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:03 pm
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Jote wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:53 pm
Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:40 am If so....
....he just kind of shy and does fear hitting one note incorrectly I think.
Yeah no, there would be more than "one", given how he is playing the outro. It genuinely sounds like someone trying to play it from memory after hearing it twice. As a musician he HAS TO know how bad it and unprofessional sounds. The whole "shy and fear hitting wrong notes" argument falls apart here. Why does he do it and why he can't learn to play that outro properly is beyond my comprehension.
I mean those new notes or chords at exacly 2:02 and 3:58
Ah, ok, this new sequence. I have mixed feelings about it. But I don't mind the sub-bass drops though!
I am watching that infamous outro more times. It's definitely live.
Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:54 pm
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Industrial Revolution 2 in Oslo:
www.jarrelook.de
93 Berl.I
95 Paris
97 Stuttg.,Mun.,Oberh.,Frankf.
02 Aalb.
08 Frankf.,Zurich
09 Kobl.,Zurich
10 Oberh.,Stuttg.,Bamb.,Mun.,Mannh.,Strasb.,Oslo
11 Monaco,Frankf.,Dortm.,Cologne,Treves,Mun.,Zurich
16 Frankf.,Berl,D'dorf,Nuremb.,Münster
17 Berl.,Bonn
24 Bratisl.
25 Venice,Pomp.,Stuttg.
Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:56 pm
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Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:03 pm I am watching that infamous outro more times. It's definitely live.
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Yes, that's what I said. You know it's live because he's not doing a great job at playing it. The intro and the outro are live. The main theme is NOT LIVE (3:05-5:08). The outro (5:08 onwards) IS LIVE. He plays it relatively well until 5:41. At 5:35 he starts the ascending note sequence and then at 5:41 it all falls apart. He tries to do that ascending sequence again at 5:58 and it fails because the underlying chord changes in the meantime from Gm to Dm. It's a mess.

Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:09 pm
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Jote wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:56 pm
Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:03 pm I am watching that infamous outro more times. It's definitely live.
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Yes, that's what I said. You know it's live because he's not doing a great job at playing it. The intro and the outro are live. The main theme is NOT LIVE (3:05-5:08). The outro (5:08 onwards) IS LIVE. He plays it relatively well until 5:41. At 5:35 he starts the ascending note sequence and then at 5:41 it all falls apart. He tries to do that ascending sequence again at 5:58 and it fails because the underlying chord changes in the meantime from Gm to Dm. It's a mess.

Mess? Doubt. It's question of comprehension. He modifies the outro, compared to '76 version. I bet if he would play the original outro, then that would be bad, that he can't alter from the original. It's indeed OK to variate the note line.
Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:27 pm
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Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:09 pm Mess? Doubt. It's question of comprehension. He modifies the outro, compared to '76 version. I bet if he would play the original outro, then that would be bad, that he can't alter from the original. It's indeed OK to variate the note line.
It's not a question of doubt or belief. He messes it up. He plays wrong notes over wrong chords. He stumbles, plays out of sync and struggles to find the next note. These are facts and any trained musician will tell you that. Looks like you are choosing to ignore them - fine with me, I don't need to convince anyone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:30 pm
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Jote wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:27 pm
Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:09 pm Mess? Doubt. It's question of comprehension. He modifies the outro, compared to '76 version. I bet if he would play the original outro, then that would be bad, that he can't alter from the original. It's indeed OK to variate the note line.
It's not a question of doubt or belief. He messes it up. He plays wrong notes over wrong chords. He stumbles, plays out of sync and struggles to find the next note. These are facts and any trained musician will tell you that. Looks like you are choosing to ignore them - fine with me, I don't need to convince anyone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
One must not be trained musician...
He, anyway, trained enough to alter and modify the way he wish.

Yeah, he can never win, ever.
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Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:31 pm
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Oxygene wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:54 pm Industrial Revolution 2 in Oslo:
Also full performance of MF2 in Oslo from the same person



So it looks like MF2 in Oslo was also shortened to 3:30 much like in Helsinki (verse + chorus + solo), there just wasn't any evidence (only partial clips)
Post Posted Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:43 pm
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I feel like the main melody of MF2 has Domino's main lead part (probably done with Moog Liberation) from concerts in china.

Listen from 47:17








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