TelAviv909 wrote:"Show me this hate you describe. Quote him. I don't see any of it."
"afterall the foundation of an "unsecular jewish state" is a mistake according to many, including me"
just to be absolutely clear....
"afterall the foundation of an "
unsecular jewish state" is a mistake according to many, including me"
With that I mean that a country where your religion decides if you can be part of society is moraly wrong....
This doesn't mean that I don't think jews shouldn't have a safe place to live AT ALL, but it also doesn't mean they can STEAL land and occupie it and throw non-jews out (millions have been kicked out)
All it means is that israel would be a better place if ALL people living there have equel rights
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH THAT CONCEPT DUDE?
I'm getting sick and tired of being called "anti-semite" when all I do is look at the facts I see, the data I collect and comment about it. No jew is better (or worse) then any other human being, we are all equel and it's time jews start looking at what they're doing to palastinian PPL in their home country.
When you point a finger at someone else there's three fingers pointing back you know...
According to you it's OK to kill 1500 lebanese PPL (1191 of them civilians) because the hezbolah fired some rockets into a desert hoping to hit a israeli militairy positions? (killing 43 israeli PLL)
It's OK to send an army of 10.000 to catch 500-600 hezbolah fighters?
Nevermind the UN, let's just bomb their posts so they can't get in the way of fighting (killing 50 UN officials along the way...) (typo fixed, 50 is the approxamite number of UN officials killed in the confict BTW, most of lebanese nationality)
The only reason the second intifada started was because Israel was refusing to implement the oslo agreement, the palastinian authorities DID support the 2 state solution INCLUDING acceping israel, they were forced to denounce it however after camp david failed...
Statistics also don't lie
casualties
first intifada (1993-1997)
israel 160 (5 childresn)
palastine 1162 (241 children)
al aqsa intifada (2000-present)
israel 1023 (no children(!)
palastine 4160 (784 children)
Who is the victim in this confict, and who is the agressor?
both sides ofcourse, but somehow the statistics don't show the same picture...
where is the balance in that?
Israel is essentially land that was forcibly taken from the Arabs and given to the Jews for no particular reason. They have a right to be angry
Ehm, Dude, I wouldn't dare using the words "no particular reason", it was 1948 remember... I'd say jews had a VERY GOOD REASON to want a safe place...
