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JMJ's Alfacam Oxygene concert in September 2007


Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:19 pm
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Naah, but it will be on the album, for sure :P
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Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:33 pm
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Just to let you know : the melody of Oxygène 2 is one of the harder to play, you have to be in rhythm, for my case (I'm not a reference, sure :P), I can't play it, but on the other hand, I have not tried to learn it :punch:
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Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:33 pm
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If you can all the notes in the head, it only requires some pleying practise, unless you are skilled. The problem about the Oxygene 2 blip blip lead is that it isn't the same notes used the two times it is present in the track, I wonder if it was a little improvised when the original was recorded.
I am not a very skilled when it comes to keyplaying but I'd say it takes some consentration to do the Oxygene 2 lead perfectly but it isn't impossible, I can't think that JMJ who got pianolessons etc cannot play this when I can here in my isolated room, so there must have been other reasons.
Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:43 pm
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Well I don't think a child can do it but yes as first as you are able to handle it, it is easy but still requires some concentration to keep it in sync with the rhythm.
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Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:49 pm
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Jakob BC wrote:If you can all the notes in the head, it only requires some pleying practise, unless you are skilled. The problem about the Oxygene 2 blip blip lead is that it isn't the same notes used the two times it is present in the track, I wonder if it was a little improvised when the original was recorded.
I am not a very skilled when it comes to keyplaying but I'd say it takes some consentration to do the Oxygene 2 lead perfectly but it isn't impossible, I can't think that JMJ who got pianolessons etc cannot play this when I can here in my isolated room, so there must have been other reasons.
Not really its pretty simple to play two handed using your index Finger on each.....When your technically able to play it,your fingers will simply just go there without a thought,like any playing.Jarre can certainly not be that chronically out of practice to get it right to the point where he needs 20 takes!!!,its not a large passage of Music that is hard to recall,Yes it is different on the second passage,but they are the same notes its just got a section removed and the melody before the da dada da is played 3 more times to the first passage ,Bum notes perhaps I could understand but not too skilled to require that many Takes for someone of Jarres stature and ability.But that said he's never played it right on the concerts which he's played it where the Video footage has been availible(Mainly Oxygene tour Katowice)he plays totally the wrong notes

I posted a video of me playing this solo completely live without any Music,on the Eminent last year just recorded on my Mobile Phone,I'll try and do another one tonight on one of the synths
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Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:57 pm
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And that's why I can't imagine what could have went wrong for JMJ, something else must have caused problems as it sounds like it all had been practised in the studio before this performance.
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Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:00 pm
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Maybe JMJ was out of focus. Maybe he lost control of himself??
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Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:08 pm
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Firecobra22 wrote:Maybe JMJ was out of focus. Maybe he lost control of himself??
How do you mean this? :P


Btw, does somebody have a "forbidden-camera-recording" ?? :mrgreen: :wink:
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Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:11 pm
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Nerves would be a factor,large audience or not,the simple fact is being as he's really intimately filmed rather than hiding behind a backdrop,there's more focus on him,and that would add pressure,I've been in the studio playing some melodies,then wanted to record them note perfect and bam...Cockups galore,usually takes a couple of takes,suppose Jarres the same,there's really no second chance,at least in the studio you have the option of relying on sequencing if needs be

Its not fair to beat him up over it,He's done it on the Oxygene tour,played a few bum notes on Oxygene 2,after all he's Human and I'm glad he's doing something positive to blow out the flames of the playback sceptics who slag him off.
Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:13 pm
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Well, maybe he had a blackout. Yes that was the word I was looking for. Ironic isn't it. I'm looking for the word to describe a situation in wich I am. Blackout.
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Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:16 pm
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Equinoxe wrote:Nerves would be a factor,large audience or not,the simple fact is being as he's really intimately filmed rather than hiding behind a backdrop,there's more focus on him,and that would add pressure,I've been in the studio playing some melodies,then wanted to record them note perfect and bam...Cockups galore,usually takes a couple of takes,suppose Jarres the same,there's really no second chance,at least in the studio you have the option of relying on sequencing if needs be

Its not fair to beat him up over it,He's done it on the Oxygene tour,played a few bum notes on Oxygene 2,after all he's Human and I'm glad he's doing something positive to blow out the flames of the playback sceptics who slag him off.
I know exaclty what you mean. I had that same problem when I started playing. I practiced and I practiced and I could play it like the manner born. But when I was getting ready to record it I lost all the notes in my head. I didn't know what to play or how to play it anymore. Very frustrating.
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Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:21 pm
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He is playing on a portable on the ninth picture (see the link Christophe gave). Could this be the one from the Docklands concerts (not the insect but the other one) or is it just some "normal" (vintage) portable?

:???:

Anyone an idea?
Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:22 pm
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Firecobra22 wrote:
Equinoxe wrote:Nerves would be a factor,large audience or not,the simple fact is being as he's really intimately filmed rather than hiding behind a backdrop,there's more focus on him,and that would add pressure,I've been in the studio playing some melodies,then wanted to record them note perfect and bam...Cockups galore,usually takes a couple of takes,suppose Jarres the same,there's really no second chance,at least in the studio you have the option of relying on sequencing if needs be

Its not fair to beat him up over it,He's done it on the Oxygene tour,played a few bum notes on Oxygene 2,after all he's Human and I'm glad he's doing something positive to blow out the flames of the playback sceptics who slag him off.
I know exaclty what you mean. I had that same problem when I started playing. I practiced and I practiced and I could play it like the manner born. But when I was getting ready to record it I lost all the notes in my head. I didn't know what to play or how to play it anymore. Very frustrating.
That is possible.
Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:23 pm
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Vlerkje wrote:He is playing on a portable on the ninth picture (see the link Christophe gave). Could this be the one from the Docklands concerts (not the insect but the other one) or is it just some "normal" (vintage) portable?

:???:

Anyone an idea?
I don't know wich portable it is, but it seems a vintage one! He played the melody of "Oxygene 5" on it... :wink:

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Post Posted Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:25 pm
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It must be the Moog Liberation, also played by Dominique Perrier in China 1982. It was visible on some other pictures.
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